If promoting "Made in Finland" is racism and xenophobia...

[Pursuivant]

so as the whiners always say supporting the local economy is xenophobia and such, lets see what the current sitting multiculturalist and immigrant-friendly Minister of Foreign Trade and Development Aid, Paavo Väyrynen has to say:
http://www.kauppalehti.fi/5/i/talous/uu ... sort=false

“You have to pay foreign laborers the same wages as domestic ones, and immigration costs significant amounts to the government. So it should be considered producing cheaper offshore”.

apparently there is no “need for workers” in Finland - there is a need for “cheap exploitable labor”...

so in other words, anyone complaining they can't get a job is exactly causing himself not having a job despising these kind of products

because those products mean someone here has a factory which has jobs... if they move their production offshore who do you think is working there? you?

[rinso]

[sinikala]

Can we have a show of hands of people despising these kind of products?


... sound of no hands going up.


Now can we have a show of hands for those who think that Hank is whining for a change, and that most of this is a figment of his rather tiny imagination.

Immigrants in Finland = 2%, it's the domestic 98% you need to convince first.

The reason the "made in Finland" items don't sell very well (except to people like me who can afford them - and I always make a point of buying Finnish, if not Finnish then western European) is a combination of...

(a) Domestic goods are priced too highly as the Finnish manufacturers milk the cash cow that is fraction of the population that prefer to buy domestic products... c.f. Nokia phones, Marimekko, Finnish veg.. It falls slightly short of profiteering.

and

(b) the rest of the Finnish population are either too poor or too tight to give a flying @#$% where it comes from they just want it cheap.

[sinikala]

Might I also remind the OP that he drives a car made in Asia, and buys most of his clothes from ebay.de

When you have an EU built car and maintain it with EU produced spare parts and support Finnish clothes shops - then you can start preaching to the rest of us.

[flyingyellowpig]

so as the whiners always say supporting the local economy is xenophobia and such, lets see what the current sitting multiculturalist and immigrant-friendly Minister of Foreign Trade and Development Aid, Paavo Väyrynen has to say:
http://www.kauppalehti.fi/5/i/talous/uu ... sort=false

“You have to pay foreign laborers the same wages as domestic ones, and immigration costs significant amounts to the government. So it should be considered producing cheaper offshore”.

apparently there is no “need for workers” in Finland - there is a need for “cheap exploitable labor”...

so in other words, anyone complaining they can't get a job is exactly causing himself not having a job despising these kind of products

because those products mean someone here has a factory which has jobs... if they move their production offshore who do you think is working there? you?

Good post ,plausible. .
We own you a beer.I always choose to buy Finnish products because they are better and gives jobs to the local economy.I know most of the time they are more expensive.

[Pursuivant]

Can we have a show of hands of people despising these kind of products?[]

but its n a t i o n a l i s m , remeber that evil thing your nan was all about before you left Bendoveristan? you know the vile habits of flying the flags on national holidays and such. I can dig you numerous examples of people hating Finland and Finnish products and the superiority of foreign products - it started in Finland already in the Medieval times the domestic items weren't good enough.

The reason the "made in Finland" items don't sell very well (except to people like me who can afford them

is because yes we know - any product "made in Finland" is cheaper bought outside of Finland...

Might I also remind the OP that he drives a car made in Asia, and buys most of his clothes from ebay.de
When you have an EU built car and maintain it with EU produced spare parts and support Finnish clothes shops - then you can start preaching to the rest of us.

which we don't have any Finnish automobile nor any Finnish clothes production worth mentioning any more and I can't afford the few luxury products made here... the hypocritical politicians whine they lost the election because of bad advertising - they don't "get it" that its their own selling out of the Finnish economy that has caused their own demise...

OK, I'll go play with my BNP-sponsored red double decker bus reading "Buy British Toys"

[ChubbyPoacher]

OK, I'll go play with my BNP-sponsored red double decker bus reading "Buy British Toys"

Is that because you've thrown all your Finnish ones out of your pram?

[Pursuivant]

they were made of wood an nailed to the floor

[sammy]

Is that because you've thrown all your Finnish ones out of your pram?

OT - but as a child, I had a friend who did that... each time he had a tantrum, him mom would lock him in his room to cool down and he instantly retaliated by opening the window and throwing all his toys out... so every now and then one could witness a veritable shower of Matchbox and Corgi toy cars from the fourth floor, occasionally followed by a severe Lego hailstorm.

Perhaps he also only threw away those that weren't of domestic origin.

[sinikala]

Can we have a show of hands of people despising these kind of products?[]

but its n a t i o n a l i s m , remeber that evil thing your nan was all about before you left Bendoveristan? you know the vile habits of flying the flags on national holidays and such. I can dig you numerous examples of people hating Finland and Finnish products and the superiority of foreign products.

I don't think you can.

The reason the "made in Finland" items don't sell very well SNIP
(a) Domestic goods are priced too highly as the Finnish manufacturers milk the cash cow that is fraction of the population that prefer to buy domestic products... c.f. Nokia phones, Marimekko, Finnish veg.. It falls slightly short of profiteering.

is because yes we know - any product "made in Finland" is cheaper bought outside of Finland...

Which is because Finnish companies screw the home market. That is your problem. Deal with it.

Might I also remind the OP that he drives a car made in Asia, and buys most of his clothes from ebay.de When you have an EU built car and maintain it with EU produced spare parts and support Finnish clothes shops - then you can start preaching to the rest of us.

which we don't have any Finnish automobile nor any Finnish clothes production worth mentioning any more and I can't afford the few luxury products made here... the hypocritical politicians whine they lost the election because of bad advertising - they don't "get it" that its their own selling out of the Finnish economy that has caused their own demise...

Excuses, excuses.

After your house, cars are likely to be the biggest purchase you'll ever make. Buying and running an Asian car wipes out most of your day to day purchases of small domestic goods. You get far more back - for yourself, for Finland, and for the EU by buying a European built car than buying Asian.

Even if the clothes are made in China, buying them from ebay.de means that the people working in Finnish clothes shops miss out on a sale. Less jobs in Finland.

Talk is cheap. Put your money where your mouth is.

[Pursuivant]

which I am patriotically putting my money in the governmet coffers by imbibing copious amounts of alcohol that is the highes taxed domestic product. so put your money where your liver is.

and where *is* my money - I've never seen any so you know something I don't?

[sinikala]

which I am patriotically putting my money in the government coffers by imbibing copious amounts of alcohol that is the highest taxed domestic product. so put your money where your liver is.

and where *is* my money - I've never seen any so you know something I don't?

A tacit admission that your initial post was a load of horsesh*t.

Your government has all your money, they use it to pay for gazillions of useless civil servants to shuffle paper in town halls up and down Finland.

[Pursuivant]

well its the new economy model we need these multitalented golden eggs for

[TampereOwl]

so as the whiners always say supporting the local economy is xenophobia and such, lets see what the current sitting multiculturalist and immigrant-friendly Minister of Foreign Trade and Development Aid, Paavo Väyrynen has to say:
http://www.kauppalehti.fi/5/i/talous/uu ... sort=false

“You have to pay foreign laborers the same wages as domestic ones, and immigration costs significant amounts to the government. So it should be considered producing cheaper offshore”.

apparently there is no “need for workers” in Finland - there is a need for “cheap exploitable labor”...

so in other words, anyone complaining they can't get a job is exactly causing himself not having a job despising these kind of products

because those products mean someone here has a factory which has jobs... if they move their production offshore who do you think is working there? you?

Aren't you ashamed to live in a country where people are so thick they have to work in factories?

[Pursuivant]

I'm rather be thick and work inside than thin and herd livestock