Telecommunications data retention

r3ddr · Post by **r3ddr** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:42 pm

via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommun ... pean_Union

what is the status in Finland with this one? does it apply already to tmi / small hosting / internet businesses / etc? Is the March 2009 deadline up for grabs?

On 15 March 2006 the European Union formally adopted Directive 2006/24/EC, on "the retention of data generated or processed in connection with the provision of publicly available electronic communications services or of public communications networks and amending Directive 2002/58/EC" [1][2]
The Directive requires Member States to ensure that communications providers must retain, for a period of between 6 months and 2 years, necessary data as specified in the Directive
to trace and identify the source of a communication;
to trace and identify the destination of a communication;
to identify the date, time and duration of a communication;
to identify the type of communication;
to identify the communication device;
to identify the location of mobile communication equipment.
The data is required to be available to competent national authorities in specific cases, "for the purpose of the investigation, detection and prosecution of serious crime, as defined by each Member State in its national law".

The Directive as adopted covers fixed telephony, mobile telephony, Internet access, Internet email and Internet telephony. Member States are required to transpose it into national law within 18 months - ie no later than September 2007. However, they may if they wish postpone the application of the Directive to Internet access, Internet email and Internet telephony for a further 18 months after this date. A majority of Member States have indicated that they will indeed exercise this option.

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raamv · Post by **raamv** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:13 am

what does this have to do anything with TMI or whatever..
Its the carriers..who have to retain records..and that has been in their systems forever..

r3ddr · Post by **r3ddr** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:55 am

raamv wrote:what does this have to do anything with TMI or whatever..
Its the carriers..who have to retain records..and that has been in their systems forever..

to a small extent, the small hosting/internet company is a carrier in itself

for instance if it starts selling VPN access (to tunnel all that traffic somewhere) it can be a loophole in the system

ISP/Elisa/Sonera/etc sees their customers going to a black hole, then appearing somewhere else

I don't think they have barriers like, if your valuations is below 50k eur you don't have to worry about this

or users creating VPN tunnels (i.e. onion network) between them to pretty much ruin the whole show

raamv · Post by **raamv** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:01 am

r3ddr wrote:
raamv wrote:what does this have to do anything with TMI or whatever..
Its the carriers..who have to retain records..and that has been in their systems forever..
to a small extent, the small hosting/internet company is a carrier in itself

for instance if it starts selling VPN access (to tunnel all that traffic somewhere) it can be a loophole in the system

ISP/Elisa/Sonera/etc sees their customers going to a black hole, then appearing somewhere else

I don't think they have barriers like, if your valuations is below 50k eur you don't have to worry about this

or users creating VPN tunnels (i.e. onion network) between them to pretty much ruin the whole show

Well well
I dont know where you get your understanding...but then.. Ficora sets the rules for ISPs that they MUST follow to operate..
so I rest my case.. its not anyone elses's problem that an ISP has to create VPNS if they sell that!!

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