Swedish in Finland

[sammy]

Maybe the potential immigrants to Finland might have more opportunities to find a job in Sweden than in Finland. If you are a finn, please don`t get offended!But as i can read in this forum it`s so unbelievably hard for a foreigner to get a job in Finland, even if he speaks finnish quite well.

This is probably true; for example according to the Migrant Integration Policy Index, Sweden is the top country in Europe - see e.g. these labour market access figures http://www.integrationindex.eu/integrat ... /2597.html

Mind you it is equally true that merely speaking the language (or languages) of country X, no matter how fluently, it does not follow that you automatically get a job in that country. That is, language fluency in itself is not usually worth much... except maybe in some translation-related professions.

However this job subject has been discussed to bits in the jobs section

Returning to the subject, and turning the tables, there's also the tornedalsfinska in Sweden (where it is an official minority language)

http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornedalsfinska

http://www.sprakradet.se/me%C3%A4nkieli

"To study in Sweden" - the meänkieli version rocks.

Ihmisiä joila oon korkeakoulukoulutus kysythään työmarkkinoila. Kokemukset eri kulttuurista ja eri kielitaiot oon korkeassa arvossa ko työmarkkinat aina enämpi kansanvälistyvät. Korkeakoulukoulutus kehittää kans ihmistä henkilökohtasesti. Sie opit ratkasheen prupleemiä, ajattelehmaan analyyttisesti ja saat opetella formyleeraahmaan asioita hyvin – niin kirjottamalla ko puhumalla. Se oon ossaamista jota aina tarttee.

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As for studying at a university - IIRC international degree students are usually exempted from the obligatory Swedish language test EP et al have mentioned.

It could be different if you enrolled in a "regular" degree programme given completely in Finnish, but I'm not sure. Such cases are relatively rare I think, so my advice concerning the degree requirements would be to contact the university and ask, instead of guessing on a forum like this...

Btw, in University of Helsinki one can demand that exams are done in finnish or swedish unless subjet dictates otherwise. So in University of Helsinki one can study in a programme that is given in Finnish, but the exams must be provided in Swedish too if student want's so.

[sammy]

Btw, in University of Helsinki one can demand that exams are done in finnish or swedish unless subjet dictates otherwise. So in University of Helsinki one can study in a programme that is given in Finnish, but the exams must be provided in Swedish too if student want's so.

Yep - that's quite understandable since there are so many Swedish-speakers in the area. I can't remember whether this issue ever came up at the University of Jyväskylä, don't even know if they have a similar rule. It's possible, though I can't remember even meeting any finlandssvenska students there.

The JYU web pages are only in Finnish and English, too. University of Vaasa pages are in Finnish and Swedish (+English);for a second I wondered why Turku wasn't... but there's the Åbo Akademi of course.

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As for studying at a university - IIRC international degree students are usually exempted from the obligatory Swedish language test EP et al have mentioned.

But that disqualifies one from a public office at present - there is though talk of implementing a waiver on the language issue, but as its an "official bilingualism" issue theres wormy hairs in the can...