What to do with the food waste if the komposti is full ?
What to do with the food waste if the komposti is full ?
Am staying in omakotitalo and any good suggestion what can I do with the food waste when my komposti is full ? I understand that we are not allow to throw food waste or recycleable things in the rubbish bin in Finland. Any advise ?
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Re: What to do with the food waste if the komposti is full ?
Empty the komposti...
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Re: What to do with the food waste if the komposti is full ?
the things in the komposti is not ready yet to be taken out
Re: What to do with the food waste if the komposti is full ?
make another composti...or get a new one ...
generally, people have a high end one and a low end one..
In this cold weather...nothing will decompose till Spring...
generally, people have a high end one and a low end one..
In this cold weather...nothing will decompose till Spring...



Re: What to do with the food waste if the komposti is full ?
Something will... http://www.biolan.fi/english/default4.a ... age_id=251raamv wrote:...nothing will decompose till Spring...
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Re: What to do with the food waste if the komposti is full ?
Are there really laws here in Finland saying it's illegal to throw out food waste to the normal trash bin? I don't think so but I don't have any proof to back it up. It's just what I have heard.
We have some terrible nosy neighbors who love digging through our yhtiö's trash and they would report all of the things that were thrown out to the normal trash that could have been recycled including food things that should have gone to the bio-waste bin. Well that made a bunch of other yhtiö residents really upset and started some arguments. It basically ended when someone said that there is no law saying that you must throw food items in the bio waste and no law saying you must recycle everything in the correct areas. Now of course I personally recycle the paper and cardboard things etc since there are designated bins for these where we live. But these guys were taking out the glass and metal cans saying that we have to take them downtown to the recycling centers there and blah blah blah. Anyway most of the people in our yhtiö were so mad about these guys' actions and them making huge messes while going through the trash taking out what could be taken down town.
I am not against recycling and I do what I can (even though this post might make me sound otherwise
) but I also don't like the idea of someone going through my trash and coming back to me telling me what I need to be doing.
Anyway the point of my writing here was just to ask are there laws about this or not?
We have some terrible nosy neighbors who love digging through our yhtiö's trash and they would report all of the things that were thrown out to the normal trash that could have been recycled including food things that should have gone to the bio-waste bin. Well that made a bunch of other yhtiö residents really upset and started some arguments. It basically ended when someone said that there is no law saying that you must throw food items in the bio waste and no law saying you must recycle everything in the correct areas. Now of course I personally recycle the paper and cardboard things etc since there are designated bins for these where we live. But these guys were taking out the glass and metal cans saying that we have to take them downtown to the recycling centers there and blah blah blah. Anyway most of the people in our yhtiö were so mad about these guys' actions and them making huge messes while going through the trash taking out what could be taken down town.
I am not against recycling and I do what I can (even though this post might make me sound otherwise

Anyway the point of my writing here was just to ask are there laws about this or not?
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Re: What to do with the food waste if the komposti is full ?
I meant outside..and not inside the composti...
I ve used biolan and its one of the best composti in the market today!!
I ve used biolan and its one of the best composti in the market today!!


Re: What to do with the food waste if the komposti is full ?
No, there is no such law. For example I have a very small yard, and there is a very small composter that comes full in three months. The rest of the time I just have to put food waste into "sekajäte".
Re: What to do with the food waste if the komposti is full ?
jackieng wrote:I understand that we are not allow to throw food waste or recycleable things in the rubbish bin in Finland. Any advise ?

What, this is news to me, everyone I know scrapes their plates into the bin here. No one has ever mentioned such a thing to me, we have all our different bins for glass metal etc. So what do people generally do with their food waste if they don't have a composter?

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I have a biohazard bin, and theres one in the yard. At the cottage its a bit twofold though I could compost better theres a problem with rats... so I generally don't "waste" much if any food.
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Re: What to do with the food waste if the komposti is full ?
The new class available at all upscale universities: Ecology 501 "Dumpster Diving".We have some terrible nosy neighbors who love digging through our yhtiö's trash and they would report all of the things that were thrown out to the normal trash that could have been recycled

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Our neighbors must have gone to that class and aced it! We now call them the "trash diggers".mrjimsfc wrote:The new class available at all upscale universities: Ecology 501 "Dumpster Diving".We have some terrible nosy neighbors who love digging through our yhtiö's trash and they would report all of the things that were thrown out to the normal trash that could have been recycled

Re: What to do with the food waste if the komposti is full ?
I couldn't find any info about bio waste in general waste, so I asked from EKJH:EP wrote:No, there is no such law. For example I have a very small yard, and there is a very small composter that comes full in three months. The rest of the time I just have to put food waste into "sekajäte".
Short version in English: 1) Bio waste in general waste: garbage man could refuse to take trash that has too much bio waste in it. Also if waste is noticed at dumping area they could sort them out there and send bill to garbage company which bills their customers (=you).1) Aiheuttaako biojäte sekajätteen seassa lisäkustannuksia normaalin omakotiasujan/kerrostaloyhtiön kannalta? Esim välinpitämättömät asukit tai omakotiasujan täyttynyt/toimimaton komposti aiheuttaa helposti biojätettä sekajätteen sekaan.
Mikäli biojätettä laitetaan sekajätteen sekaan ja se astiatyhjennyksessä tai kuormantarkastuksissa tulee ilmi. Voidaan astia jättää tyhjentämättä. Mikäli jätekuorma sisältää biojätettä joudutaan se lajittelemaan erikseen ja laskuttamaan tästä jätteentuottajia korotetulla jätemaksulla. Kaatopaikoille ei enää saa sijoittaa jätettä, joka sisältää merkittäviä määriä biohajoavaa jätettä.
2) Joka paikassa pelotellaan miten kamala kasvihuonekaasu metaani on (~20x pahempi kuin hiilidioksidi) ja miten sitä ei hyödynnetä, mikäli biojäte on sekajätteen seassa. Paljonko sitä metaania tulee tonnista biojätettä?
Mikäli jäte sisältää runsaasti biohajoavaa ainesta, tonnista jätettä syntyy kaatopaikkakaasua noin 150 m3. Kaatopaikkakaasussa metaanipitoisuus vaihtelee noin 30-50 % riippuen kaatopaikan iästä ja sinne sijoitetusta jätteestä ja sen tiivistämisestä. Yksi kuutiometri metaania vastaa noin 10 kWh.
Meillä Kukkuroinmäessä ei vielä voida kerätä syntyvää kaatopaikkakaasua talteen, koska se on metaanipitoisuudeltaan noin 30 %:sta ja kaatopaikkaa ei ole vielä peitetty lopetuskerroksilla miltään osilta. Myöhemmin kaasu tullaan keräämään ja käsittelemään. Mutta nykyinen lainsäädäntö lähtee siitä, että kaatopaikoille ei sijoiteta biohajoavaa materiaalia vaan se hyödynnetään esim. kompostoimalla ja pahvit ja paperit kuituina.
3) Perustuuko kierrätys ja lajittelu johonkin lakiin? "jätteiden kuljettamisesta kiinteistöltä tulee olla voimassa oleva sopimus (jätelaki 10 §)". Selvä, mutta mihin tuo lajittelu sitten perustuu? Asiakkaan ja jätteiden kuljettajatahon väliseen sopimukseen? Asiakkaan viitseliäisyyteen ja omaantuntoon (hah)?
Kierrätys- ja lajittelu perustuvat jätelainsäädäntöön, jolle yleiset raamit tulevat EU:n jätepuitedirektiivistä. Kullekin toimialalle on annettu materiaalien talteenoton ja kierrätyksen suhteen prosentuaaliset tavoitteet.
Yhdyskuntajätehuolto asumisen ja julkisten palveluiden osalta on kuntien vastuulla. Kunnat laittavat jätelain ja valtioneuvoston päätökset täytäntöön kunnallisilla jätehuoltomääräyksillä, jotka on annettu jätelain 17 §:n perusteella.
Biojätteiden erillään pito on yksi tällainen täytäntöönpano säädös. Taloudet ratkaisevat itse kompostoivatko biojätteen vai liittyvätkö biojätereitiin.
Osa näistä kierrätystavoitteista myös asumisjätteen osalta kuulu tuottajille kuten esim. paperi, sähkö- ja elektroniikkalaiteromu, autonrenkaat, romuajoneuvot sekä kannettavat paristot ja akut.
Pakkausjätteen kierrätys toteutetaan osittaisella tuottajavastuulla siten, että pakkausten maahantuojat ja valmistajat vastaavat 61 % ja kunnat asumisen osalta 39 %.
Kunnat ovat vastuussa asumisen ja julkisen palvelutoiminnan jätehuollosta ja päättävät niiden vastuulla olevan jätteen keräysjärjestelmän joko sopimusperusteiseksi tai kunnan keskitetysti kilpailuttamaksi. Sopimusperusteisessa jätteenkuljetuksessa sopimus on asukkaan ja jätteenkuljetusliikkeen välinen sopimus. Kunnan järjestämässä jätteenkuljetuksessa kunta tekee sopimuksen sen vastuulla olevien kiinteistöjen kanssa ja asukkaat eivät tee omia sopimuksia.
Molemmissa järjestelmissä kunta tekee päätökset missä sen vastuulla olevat jätteet käsitellään ja hyödynnetään.
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