AU pair Needed Urgently

KIPKEMBOI KURGAT · Post by **KIPKEMBOI KURGAT** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:48 pm

Summary
Title: Au pair
Description:
A family with a riding school is looking for an au pair who likes animals and is a really outdoor person. Work includes taking care of 16 horses with the mother, also light housework. The au pair will have a possibility to ride. The family consists of a self-employed father, at-home-mother, girls aged 13 and 18 years, 2 dogs, 3 cats and a rabbit. The family lives 6 km from the centre of Pori. Language requirement: satisfactory English. , chapel@kolumbus.fi
Geographical Information
Country: Finland Region: Satakunta
Salary / Contract
Contract type: TEMPORARY + PART-TIME
Extras
Accommodation provided: Yes
Requirements
Employer
Name: Säntti Juha ja Minna
Address: Honkaluodontie 32,28430 PORI
How to apply
How to apply: Appointment set by employer - see free text
Juha Säntti, Puh: (+358 40) 5103644, chapel@kolumbus.fi
Other Information
Date published: 23/02/2009 Nace code: 95
National reference: 7174883 ISCO code: 9131
Number of posts: 1

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Jason Wright · Post by **Jason Wright** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:07 pm

KIPKEMBOI KURGAT wrote:Summary
Title: Au pair
Description:
A family with a riding school is looking for an au pair who likes animals and is a really outdoor person. Work includes taking care of 16 horses with the mother, also light housework. The au pair will have a possibility to ride. The family consists of a self-employed father, at-home-mother, girls aged 13 and 18 years, 2 dogs, 3 cats and a rabbit. The family lives 6 km from the centre of Pori. Language requirement: satisfactory English. , chapel@kolumbus.fi

An au pair's primary responsibility is to care for children (up to 30 hours a week). Work should not include caring for horses. Sorry, but you are looking for an employee, not an au pair.

Definitions "Au Pair"
Source: European Committee for Au Pair Standards ECAPS
http://www.ecapsweb.eu/definitions3.htm

Criteria:

- Between the ages of 18-27 (the au pair may not have reached their 27th birthday when they arrive in the host country)
- Unmarried;
- Male or Female;
- Without dependants.

Duration of Au Pair Programme:

- The length of stay shall be limited to a maximum of 24 months;

- Periods of 12 months with the possibility of extension(s) are also a possibility.

Hours, activities, & duties:

- Up to a maximum of 30 hours a week including childcare and babysitting in the evenings;
Note: By definition “babysitting” is an evening activity;

- If an au pair has no option in undertaking a task then that activity must be considered mandatory i.e., not a voluntary action undertaken by the au pair. When host parents leave an au pair unsupervised (and the au pair is expected to care for the children), the au pair is officially on duty, and this time should be included as part of the 30 hours/week maximum.

Leisure time/holidays:

- Based upon a 12 month stay the au pair receives a minimum of 2 weeks holiday. If an au pair stays less than 12 months with an individual host family, this period is to be determined pro rata;

- The length and duration of vacations are to be discussed and agreed with the host family in advance of any holiday taken.

The role of the au pair:

* Help the family with "light household duties"; *
* Help with routines;
* Act and integrate as a family member;
* Take part in family activities;
* Share his/her own culture with the host family and visa versa.

Au pair accommodation (room and board):

- The au pair receives full room and board from the family throughout the duration of the placement;

- The au pair must have their own heated and furnished room (which is not shared) with a window. The au pair is to keep the room clean and tidy;

Pocket Money:

- National Au Pair Associations will set minimum and maximum levels of pocket money according to the standard of living in each country; pocket money will be paid throughout the duration of the au pair agreement.

Insurance:

- The host family is responsible for providing and paying for adequate health, accident, repatriation and liability insurance during the complete duration that the au pair and host family are sharing the cultural exchange;

- The insurance is always arranged in the host country, not in the au pair’s home country.

Study:

- In the spirit of the cultural exchange the au pair is expected to take the opportunity to study and/or participate in local cultural activities;

- The time the au pair attends courses and/or activities is during the “free time” of the au pair. Host family and au pair discuss which day(s) the au pair is able to attend.

Other obligations:

- The motivation of the au pair is based on enriching their knowledge of another culture and language, while he/she has no financial reasons and/or other reasons;

- Respecting and accepting the host family’s cultural backgrounds and activities;

- Submerging themselves into another culture in the widest sense of the meaning, taking into account the house rules, expectations and local rules of the au pair programme and host country;

- Ensure the rules and regulations of the local au pair programme, the house rules/host family expectations and other (visa and/or residence permit) legal requirements are known;

- In case the au pair requires a visa, all expenses involved in obtaining the visa (for example documents arranged in the home country of the au pair) are to be paid by the au pair.

- Light household duties are to be defined (beforehand) by the host family; approved by the placing agency and explained to the au pair before arrival.

raamv · Post by **raamv** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:13 pm

The OP's posts are getting shady by the day!!
Good that you brought up the difference between an Au pair and a Farm worker..

mrjimsfc · Post by **mrjimsfc** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:46 pm

raamv wrote:The OP's posts are getting shady by the day!!
Good that you brought up the difference between an Au pair and a Farm worker..

I think I saw this or a very similar post in mol.fi not too long ago. I was wondering about the horse care bit.

inkku · Post by **inkku** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:07 pm

I do not think there is anything shady here. Nowhere has it been defined that au pairs should take care of children only, rather they should participate in family's activities. If the family takes care of horses, what is the problem? Any young girl would love to swap kids to horses

Jason Wright · Post by **Jason Wright** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:31 pm

inkku wrote:I do not think there is anything shady here. Nowhere has it been defined that au pairs should take care of children only, rather they should participate in family's activities. If the family takes care of horses, what is the problem? Any young girl would love to swap kids to horses

You are right, au pairs can also do "light housework" as a normal family member would be expected to do, ie. washing dishes, vacuuming, washing clothes...

But you are wrong about au paring not being defined. Actually au pairing in Finland is defined VERY clearly by the Finnish Immigration Service (MAAHANMUUTTOVIRASTO) :

Source: http://www.migri.fi/download.asp?id=au_ ... 9871e75%7D
Au pairs are foreign citizens of 17-30 years of age who come to Finland to study or to become acquainted with the Finnish or Swedish language and culture. Au pairs
live with families, and compensate for their upkeep by means of light housework. Au pairs are not full-time childminders or home helps.

And au pairs in Finland are paid "pocket money" of around € 252 euros a month (as of 2007 - so could be a little more nowadays). Au Pairing is suppose to be primarily a cultural exchange, not a true employment relationship. To make matters worse, au pairs have no protection under Finnish labour and occupational safety legislation or help from Finnish authorities (ie Työsuojelupiirit) if they are being exploited by their families...since technically they are not considered employees.

Mattlill2000 · Post by **Mattlill2000** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:39 pm

16 horses???????? Just think of the manure cleaning alone. If they don't have enough help to properly take care of the horses

Work includes taking care of 16 horses with the mother

I wonder what kind of condition the horses are in.

Stephen B · Post by **Stephen B** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:19 pm

ya pardon my french but it sounds like a prety !"#¤% job to me...

i think the job post should say farm or ranch worker, that way he will get the right person for the job

mrjimsfc · Post by **mrjimsfc** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:27 pm

Stephen B wrote:ya pardon my french but it sounds like a prety !"#¤% job to me...

i think the job post should say farm or ranch worker, that way he will get the right person for the job

You're right of course, but then they would have to pay more and who would take care of the kids? Like 13 and 18 year old girls can't take care of themselves? What these people want is a freakin slave.

raamv · Post by **raamv** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:25 pm

Dont forget the 2 dogs and 3 cats and a Rabbit

...looks like a Animal house..
Not even close to a farm worker..or an Au-pair..

Mattlill2000 · Post by **Mattlill2000** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:27 pm

I wonder if the Health Inspectors dropped over..................

Pursuivant · Post by **Pursuivant** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:22 pm

We need more immigrants! There is a screaming need of workers!

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