Coffee and other popular hot drinks

[Jukka Aho]

I remember drinking coffee at breakfast at a very early age. Only learned later that maybe coffee isn't that good for children... :)

I think these are cultural memes. In some countries, caffeine is a big deal and everyone is ever-so-fussy about it, especially if children are involved. In others (like here in Finland) it doesn’t seem to matter much at all... and you can’t even normally get decaf.

Interesting links Jukka. Prohibition of coffee in the 18th century, then the prohibition of alcohol in the early 20th century which increased coffee consumption... Has the Fair Trade coffee movement made inroads in Finland yet?

The prohibition of coffee occurred a couple of times during the Swedish rule, but people would drink it anyway, illegally. King Gustav IV Adolf was quoted as saying “Because you, my subjects, are such scoundrels you cannot survive without coffee, I shall allow the consumption of this drink for the time being.” If Internet can be trusted, the prohibition was finally abolished for good in 1822.

[silk]

King Gustav IV Adolf was quoted as saying “Because you, my subjects, are such scoundrels you cannot survive without coffee, I shall allow the consumption of this drink for the time being.”

Oh You Mighty King, thank you for allowing us mere scoundrels our little daily pleasure, it will make us better servants of You. Maybe, in your infinite wisdom, you realized making something illegal doesn't make it go away, only introduces a criminal element to it.

[Bubba Elvis XIV]

apparently fair trade ain't very fair.

Yeah - fair trade has been taking a lot of flak for years, big marketing scam. Whether it's justified or not is anyone's guess.

[Joana_L]

So many thanks to you, Jukka Aho. You were like a book

"I know many who drink coffee as the first thing in the morning and as the last thing in the evening". So, the information that i read was right 8D i'm not nuts.
hum...coffee with high acidity?... maybe is a little like is here : ))

that hot blueberry juice/soup ...sounds delicious to me

Oh .. and thanks again! I (really really) will explore these links: D

[Joana_L]

oh .. I didn't know about that prohibition of coffee ...
interesting...

so painful ... "NO COFFEE"

[Pursuivant]

any of you read a book by a Portuguese author?

I've got a translation of Vaz de Caminha's "Letter to King Manuel of the Discovery of Brazil"

[sammy]

any of you read a book by a Portuguese author?

I've got a translation of Vaz de Caminha's "Letter to King Manuel of the Discovery of Brazil"

The Portuguese, they get everywhere... also in Lapland; a bloke called Damião de Góis published his Deploratio Lappianae gentis already in 1540 - that should make an interesting read

[Rob A.]

any of you read a book by a Portuguese author?

I've got a translation of Vaz de Caminha's "Letter to King Manuel of the Discovery of Brazil"

The Portuguese, they get everywhere... also in Lapland; a bloke called Damião de Góis published his Deploratio Lappianae gentis already in 1540 - that should make an interesting read

...The Portuguese, they get everywhere...Ahhh, indeed they do... even to the remote, far-flung Pacific Northwest, last part of world "discovered" by Europeans....I am, of course, errm...talking about meself...or so it would logically appear, despite my "nominal" English-Scottish background... Though I haven't found the direct link, it seems quite probable that my family line links back to this guy...





...Prince Henry the Navigator...


....the guy who kind of started it all... His father was the King of Portugal at the beginning of the "Age of Exploration" and his mother was the daughter of the original Duke of Lancaster... his uncle was the King of Denmark....and Norway ...and Sweden...Eric of Pomerania, which probably explains how the Deploration Lappianae gentis came into being....apparently at some point after the Portuguese expeditions beyond Cape Bojador, "Uncle" gave "Nephew" a map of the northern regions as understood by the Scandinavians of the day...so it seems almost certain the Portuguese were aware of "America" before the Spanish...but, of course, it's always nice to "provoke" with statements such as this ... ...and it didn't take the Portuguese long to get over to the Grand Banks of Newfoundland and start their cod fishery....and being such a staunch Catholic country, the need for fish was pretty critical...

And in terms of physical appearance, the resemblance of this guy to my father is almost to the point of being uncanny...

But, sadly, I didn't appear to have been in line for any "tangible" benefits from this "possible" connection ...

[Upphew]

hum...coffee with high acidity?... maybe is a little like is here : ))

so painful ... "NO COFFEE"

One learns quite fast to like darker roasts when regular Finnish coffee consumed in agreeable amounts causes heartburn. In my case agreeable was 10+ mugs/day and going cold turkey threatened with headache of epic proportions... for me it was easier to quit smoking than to quit coffee.

Btw, my first memories of coffee are from my childhood... I was about 4 (hmm, under 4) when I was drinking coffee with my mum and watching my little brother sleep outside in pram (or rather looking if pram moved and lil B was awake). Of course then I used lots of sugar and milk.

[sammy]

But, sadly, I didn't appear to have been in line for any "tangible" benefits from this "possible" connection ...

Unless "being often completely at sea" counts

[FraserinFinland]

Although Finland drinks alot of coffee, it is filter.
The guage of any good coffee has always been espresso, get it right and it tastes just like the smell of ground coffee.
I have rebuilt, serviced machines,roasted,ground and pumped coffee for 8 years with these guys http://www.havana.co.nz
If there is something that is missing in Finland it is coffee made with passion.

[Upphew]

If there is something that is missing in Finland it is coffee made with passion.

If you want passion, you don't come to Finland, you go to some Mediterranean country
In Finland you will see some passionate cussing when you tell them that there is no coffee in the morning