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SteveS
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by SteveS » Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:17 pm
This is quickly becoming my favourite thread
enk wrote:
The English language only has 26 letters, not 64 no matter how you look at it.
Practically there are 64 letters, we just only write them with 26 letters to confuse the foreigners
For example, we have three different 'A's. Car, Care, Cat. etc. etc..
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onkko
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by onkko » Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:25 pm
SteveS wrote:This is quickly becoming my favourite thread
enk wrote:
The English language only has 26 letters, not 64 no matter how you look at it.
Practically there are 64 letters, we just only write them with 26 letters to confuse the foreigners
For example, we have three different 'A's. Car, Care, Cat. etc. etc..
Kar, keer, kät. Its simple when you write it finnish

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Karhunkoski
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by Karhunkoski » Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:35 pm
onkko wrote:Kar, keer, kät. Its simple when you write it finnish
Indeed, we should adopt many typres of car
carsta
carlta
carssa
cariin
caraa
caroja
carjoista
carjoilta
carjoissa
carjoihin
And more to give a nice round 48 forms to the word (16 cases x partitive x plural partitive forms, etc), now that would be fun!

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onkko
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by onkko » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:09 pm
Karhunkoski wrote:onkko wrote:Kar, keer, kät. Its simple when you write it finnish
Indeed, we should adopt many typres of car
carsta
carlta
carssa
cariin
caraa
caroja
carjoista
carjoilta
carjoissa
carjoihin
And more to give a nice round 48 forms to the word (16 cases x partitive x plural partitive forms, etc), now that would be fun!

But thats simple to me

I have no idea about partitives or such but i can say those without problem, and spelling isnt problem since its written like its said

btw there is no C or G or D in my dialect

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Pursuivant
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by Pursuivant » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:10 pm
easily-lost wrote:
1. A person who speaks several languages fluently.
Ah, but thats my kind of lingusitics... and to be a cunning linguist you just need a few lines.. mmmm...
"我可以拍張妳的照片嗎?"
"為什麼?"
"這樣我才可以跟聖誕老人說我想要什麼聖誕禮物呀!"
"By the pricking of my thumbs,
Something wicked this way comes."
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by Pursuivant » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:12 pm
Karhunkoski wrote:
Indeed, we should adopt many typres of car
carsta
carlta
carssa
cariin
But we already have that in Helsinki, though its
kaara... (needs the vowel in the end)
kaarassa, kaarasta kaaraan...
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by onkko » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:21 pm
Thats used in lapland too, "tuo kaara on kyllä ryssitty ja kunnolla". Theres job for you rob, explain ryssiä

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by Pursuivant » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:31 pm
a philips head screw opened with a regular screwdriver is ryssitty
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by onkko » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:34 pm
Mikä ei pärise eikä mahdu perseeseen? venäläinen perseenpäristin.
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easily-lost
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by easily-lost » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:40 pm
Pursuivant wrote:easily-lost wrote:
1. A person who speaks several languages fluently.
Ah, but thats my kind of lingusitics... and to be a cunning linguist you just need a few lines.. mmmm...
"我可以拍張妳的照片嗎?"
"為什麼?"
"這樣我才可以跟聖誕老人說我想要什麼聖誕禮物呀!"
Haha, where did you get those cheesy words? Btw, it's in traditional characters. I'm impressed.
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by Lazydriver » Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:06 am
Here's A Lovely and Entertaining Error I Made:
I put 64 letters instead of phonemes? AGH!!!! Se estupido.
It should have been: Mein Name ist Lazydriver. Ich frage Sie, wo bzw. wie ich in Finnland Arbeit für einen Linguisten/Sprachwissenschaftler finden kann.
But I guess you just wanted to dumb it down again for the unwashed crowd here ...
Was ist bzw.? Etwa ich werde suche für das wört "schaftler"? Doch kann ich habe mein "Sie'' ins Ende von die Meinung? Ich glaube dass Deutsch war eine flexibel Sprache!
I'm not a Linguist yet, THAT IS WHY THIS THREAD WAS MADE, just thought it might be something I could be in the future to make some money (which is stupid, so I'm starting to study harder in my Mathematics, but I still have an interest in it). And I'm not sure if I mentioned this, I think I have, but I've only studied German for three years, so I said it perfectly for people who are at a lower level then I am (This is a mostly English speaking forum, the German speakers here clearly know what they're talking about, I don't think there are many other German learners here, but I wanted a nice comparable example, if my memory serves me right!). Now, of course, my German is far from perfect, but hey, perfection comes with time if it ever comes at all. I think I said that I'd probably be able to survive the streets of Baden in a few days when the rest of my grammar kinks are ironed out (like mastering dative/genitive, learning more words, etc). And yes, I knew what the definition was regarding Linguistics. Not only do I want to speak many languages, but I love studying the Grammar of many languages.
Since there's so many replies I'm not going to address each one of you directly. Matter of fact, I'm not going to finish replying tonight, because I have to get to bed! But I will get back to replying to you fine people tomorrow or the day after, depending on how much time I have!
Also, the aux in French is more like the y in Finnish. Or hell, the ü as well. But the ü and y are close anyway, except I think y has more of the "aux" to it. I haven't remembered any use of ü in Finnish, though it probably exists. I'll check later when you people correct me.
Well we don't have exactly "socialized medicine" like in Canada either. It more of a combined system. Like you can go get a heart attack and wait in the bypass line for 10 months or flick 10K on the table and have the same surgeon operate you in the same theatre you have a "public time" for in the 10 months.
But aren't taxes there through the roof? I read a survey and it said Finland was the country that was most satisfied with its healthcare compared to other countries in the EU. Obviously, that's why I'm on this forum: nothing is perfect and I'm out for the truth.
I still think that high school exhange year is best for you. You could take an after school McD job at home and save your salary if your parents are unable to help you financially. Also Rotaries could very well have some kind of stipend system. And in Finland you would live in a family, so you would not starve either.
The airfare alone is worth one month's paycheck from the Government. My mom's a pensioner, and yes, she worked hard for many years. If I got a job, my pension included with my mom's would be cut and I'd have to work after high school is over every single day to make up the loss. But thanks for the idea, appreciate the thought. Still, even if it wasn't for that, I'm not sure if I could commit myself. I'd be tempted, but I'd miss my friends. (I'm sure they'll go their own way past high school though.)
Where I live, it gets up to 55C in the Summer and it's rare to find someone that speaks Finnish. How's your sauna?
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by Pursuivant » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:08 am
Lazydriver wrote:But aren't taxes there through the roof?
Well... yes, but then again we have it all packaged into "taxes" more or less, whereas you pay for the stuff we take for granted on the side.... roof? You think we can afford roofs? Of course, everyone has a roof they can afford, but thats the idea.
Have you heard how we define traffic and other fines.
... the cunning plan is to invite Bill Gates over, lend him a Ferrari and get rid of the national debt....
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by easily-lost » Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:54 pm
Lazydriver wrote:
I'm not a Linguist yet, THAT IS WHY THIS THREAD WAS MADE, just thought it might be something I could be in the future to make some money (which is stupid, so I'm starting to study harder in my Mathematics, but I still have an interest in it).
You can make lots of money out of whatever profession, but one important issue is whether you are good enough. However, I'm not sure how long you can keep the original goal of being a linguist, especially after reading your quick switch to maths because of money.
Since you want to know if you would be hired in Finland as a linguist without any degree, a more practical way of answering that is actually a question for yourself:
Will people in your home country hire you as a linguist who has no degrees at all?
Surprise me.
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by Pursuivant » Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:16 pm
a "linguist" meaning a person that has a minimum of a masters degree in lingusitics... languages are actually not a requirement as theres a doctor Ammondt that sings Elvis songs in Sumerian. he's a linguist but don't know if he speaks any languages - live ones that is...
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by Rosamunda » Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:11 pm
Lazydriver wrote:
Also, the aux in French is more like the y in Finnish. Or hell, the ü as well. But the ü and y are close anyway, except I think y has more of the "aux" to it. I haven't remembered any use of ü in Finnish, though it probably exists. I'll check later when you people correct me.
No, not even close.
The Finnish "y" sounds like a French "u" as in but, cul, du, eu, etc
I can't really think of a similar sound in English.
The French "aux" sounds more like the English "oh!" or "owe"