Ram and Finalnd- Finnish greats

micky-in-helsinki · Post by **micky-in-helsinki** » Thu May 14, 2009 5:15 pm

I am just copying my post here because it think it's better a separate topic.

The only problem ram has is his inferiority complex. If he would be impressed from Americans it would make some sence but to be impressed from finns is not so impressive.

Finns would be angry but in my opinion Finland is a developed country thanks to swedes and sweden.

Just keen to know about any great sholar, artist or scientist from Finland not having a Swedish surname? I am not talking about local heroes but international heroes.

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micky-in-helsinki · Post by **micky-in-helsinki** » Thu May 14, 2009 5:18 pm

When I say Swedes and Sweden, I mean mainly their contributions in the past to bring Finland to here.

And please don't say Matti Ahtesari, he is a good finn but in my personal opinion peace Nobel prize is not a prestigious award anymore. It's more about politics these days

micky-in-helsinki · Post by **micky-in-helsinki** » Thu May 14, 2009 5:22 pm

Surnames tell the roots

What you told about developement in finland is a fairy-tale story.

EP · Post by EP » Thu May 14, 2009 5:25 pm

in my opinion Finland is a developed country thanks to swedes and sweden.

Oh lord. Finns were just cannon food for Sweden. Finland could only start to develope when they got autonomy under Russia. Also for the rapid growth of industry we have to "thank" Russians. Finland had massive war reparition costs to pay, and the only way to manage that was to industrialize the counry, and to do it fast so SU could not find an excuse to occupy.

Don´t you know that surname doesn´t tell your language or ethnicity? There are Swedish-speakers with Finnish surnames and even more Finnish-speakers with Swedish surnames. Finlad has four Nobe-prize winners. Three have a Finnish surname, one has a Swedish surname.

micky-in-helsinki · Post by **micky-in-helsinki** » Thu May 14, 2009 5:30 pm

Well about onko's names

Any pure Finns? Not mixtures. They are just half finns even if they speak Finnish
Some pure Finns with work in Finland?

EP! So Sweden has no importance in Finnish history? Then why to force 90% Finns to still learn a language which has almost no practical importance these days

EP · Post by EP » Thu May 14, 2009 5:40 pm

Then why to force 90% Finns to still learn a language which has almost no practical importance these days

Yes, well, that is the question.

Why don´t you do some basic reading before you start making your assumptions?

EP · Post by EP » Thu May 14, 2009 5:43 pm

Finns are just half-Finns? Now you lost me.

Anyway, interesting to see that there are still people who believe in existance of "lower races".

micky-in-helsinki · Post by **micky-in-helsinki** » Thu May 14, 2009 5:50 pm

Come to point!
Names?

Don't go into racism and start a useless and endless debate. Stick to the point and give the names of Finns. "Half Finns" doesn't mean that the superior part came from the other half but it means that those people are not only Finns but they are half from some other ethnicity.

Upphew · Post by **Upphew** » Thu May 14, 2009 7:39 pm

micky-in-helsinki wrote:Come to point!
Names?

Don't go into racism and start a useless and endless debate. Stick to the point and give the names of Finns. "Half Finns" doesn't mean that the superior part came from the other half but it means that those people are not only Finns but they are half from some other ethnicity.

You want names of Finns? Go and get phone book.

Pursuivant · Post by **Pursuivant** » Thu May 14, 2009 9:44 pm

There hasn't been that long a tradition of surnames in all strata... the ones that had them... you get sisters and brothers with different names they took at some point and time, and depending on the fashion of the time in Finnish or Swedish. I've got a "better folk" name but I tell you if I had taken my wife's Finnish surname I'd still be a better person than you. Stupid foreigner

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