Offers in finnish supermarkets

[Bubba Elvis XIV]

That quote might be worth preserving for posterity before his Royal Highness B.E.XIV introduces the mother of all thread killers, the kebab...

who, what, why, when?

Seems every time I randomly visit a forum these days or 'click on the wrong box' and enter the wrong room I find my good name being dragged though the mud!!!

f@ck it...I will stick to on the hun.com's forum....my input and knowledge is far more respected and appreciated there!

Good bye, gentlemen, ladies! *Nods to all and storms off in a big huff*


Oh I forgot!

KEBABS!!!!

[AldenG]

Look, he specializes in telling Europeans - who are on the right continent - to go back to their own countries. If you look back through the thread, you will see my point is that he is in the ultimate of glass houses. He is not European, and ultimately life in India would be a backward move for him. You figure out the rest, Pursuivant.

That makes you a perfectly symmetrical couple, doesn't it?

You, a European living in the Orient, specialize in telling Europeans to stop admitting people from radically different cultures. You even mention moving back to England to live on the dole. Wouldn't that be a backward move for you?

I think we can figure out the rest.

[AldenG]

Maybe it was just my sheer misfortune to come across to a moron every ten meters (at the airport, in the library, university, office depot, wal-mart, petrol station, police station, hotel, and so on)...

It's not just you. That is my sheer misfortune here as well, most days. It's not reserved only for visitors.

[Jukka Aho]

Jukka, the whole Finnish nation, whatever language, has a dual genetic origin.

I wasn’t talking about genetics but things like active family ties over the Gulf of Bothnia, self-identification and sense of belonging to a certain culture or nation, loyalty to a ruler – especially back in the days when Finland wasn’t yet an independent nation, or during war time – and origins in the sense that under the Swedish rule, Finnish-speaking Finns had to assume the Swedish language and even Swedish family names in order to get higher education or climb up the class ladder, etc...

In any case, Finland-Swedes / Swedish-speaking Finns are usually the first to correct you if you have the audacity to suggest they’d be “Swedish” in some way. They have an identity on their own, as Finns (albeit not as Finnish-speaking Finns), and that identity is not an “immigrant” identity of any kind.

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That said, if you’re interested in genetics, take a look at this recent HS.fi article.

Since you seem to be up in arms about preserving the present-day Swedish-speaking areas in Finland as Swedish-speaking, indefinitely, you might also want to do a Google search on certain Ida Asplund. I’m getting the feeling you two would probably agree on many things. But if that’s the case, I’m just wondering what you’re doing here trying to learn Finnish then... why not fight for the cause and learn finlandssvenska (and only that) instead? Who knows, maybe you could begin a new life as a tomato farmer in Närpes... :)
 

[easily-lost]

Easily lost, I am on the right continent, and there are EU schemes that enable people to search for work for 3 months in a member state. I am NOT a scrounger from a third world country.

Yeah, how did you manage to be kicked out by a third world country then? Must be a *very* sad story...

Mind you, it seems everyone who is annoyed by your extremely biased opinions happens to have a job either in Finland or elsewhere, so we can understand your sense of insecurity from your rough life. I will cover my eyes if you ever moved to Finland, because I know how much harder you will fall here.

[Jukka Aho]

Yes, Jukka. You are right. Nationhood is about things like "self-identification and sense of belonging to a certain culture or nation". So from that point of view, the Finlandssvenkar are Finns.

The problem Swedish-speaking Finns often face in Sweden is that they’re mistaken for Finnish-speaking Finns. This is partly because of their accent (and possibly also because of their weird/archaic vocabulary from the Swedish point of view) and partly because the general public in Sweden just does not know too much about Finland, beyond the stereotypes... so if you were to interview a random Swede off the street, he often doesn’t even know there’s a Swedish-speaking minority in Finland. (Or so I’m told.)

Anyhow, my relatives in Vasa do have a red and gold banner outside their home, showing they are Swedish speakers.

Those banners – the English Wikipedia calls them household pennants – exist in various colors and designs for every (historical) province of Finland. There are also more elaborate variants where the design incorporates the regional or municipal coat of arms.

They watch Swedish TV (from Sweden)

That has been a long-standing tradition on the coastal region where the Swedish channels could be received over the gulf using a tall antenna mast. Language of course plays a part in it, too, but it must also be contrasted with the fact that Finland only used to have two national OTA TV broadcast networks (YLE TV1, YLE TV2) up until the early 1990s... so even the Finnish-speakers living in those areas would have been highly keen on getting more channels and more programming to watch, no matter the language.

The local cable TV company (they’re headquartered in Vaasa but operate in the whole coastal and Southern Ostrobothnia region across the language boundaries) used to carry three Swedish channels (SVT1, SVT2, TV4) in their basic package for the longest time. When they changed over to digital only and ditched the analog channels, they got a bit greedy though and now require getting a viewing card and paying yearly fees if you want to watch those. I wonder how much that practice has lowered the number of viewers... I would guess the majority of people/households in Vaasa subscribe to their basic service, but whether they subscribe to pay channels too... hmm, difficult to say.

and told me they would rather move to Sweden if the Swedish language dies out in Finland.

I think languages usually don’t just up and die on you... with a bang... unless forcibly assisted by a dictator, or some such. Instead, they die a slow and wasting death... and those witnessing it don’t notice it (because they have more important things to do, such as running their daily lives and being good little citizens) until it’s too late... and then they’re left with the realization they’re the only granpa in the village that still knows how to speak it.

Have you been to Replot? There is one Finnish-speaking house on the island, judging by his white and blue pennant.

Yes, a couple of times, but both of them were only quick sight-seeing rounds in a car... (The main point of the visits was seeing the bridge and stopping at the nearby restaurant for a dinner/lunch.)

[dampa]

To the topic, what about:-

Tarjous!
5 mars bar for 10€. 1 mars bar, 2€

I see this kind of tarjous everyday and they say, "that is just our tarjous" Why buy 5 thinking you are getting a bargain when you don't need 5 and you are OK with just getting 1. Taking 1 or 5, favours no one but the seller So who is fooled?