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Post by raamv » Wed May 13, 2009 11:49 pm

dampa wrote:
raamv wrote: I am a foreigner in Finland
Hyvä, mistä päin oot kotoisin? Does that have to matter if you are an alien from the outer space or what?
raamv wrote:When the Majority of Finns support YLE;
...and who told you?
This is what I hate about you stupids...
I dont need to tell you who told me.. Maybe a little bird..
and just FYI; I do have more contacts than you do so dont start bringing stupid arguments like these..
Onkko has already pointed you out to some good starting point ..instead of arguing for the @#$% s sake of arguing...Find the information yourself before you start disputing..for I am too lazy to start posting links after links just to convince people like you..


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Post by dampa » Fri May 15, 2009 11:11 pm

Upphew wrote:
dampa wrote: Totally pointless... comparing (education) MBA with TV viewing :roll: :roll: Maybe you need to re-think what you've just posted :lol:

TV isnt life's essential goddamit :twisted:
Education isn't life essential either. And isn't it pointless compare entertainment pushing, money making channel to one that has mandate to, for example, educate people and take care of minorities?
Educate people and take care of minorities? :roll: You should have not got yourself educated and passed through school and just keep watching TV all your years. That would have made you what you are here OK. Plus remember you would have also paid all the YLE taxes all your life too :evil:

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Post by dampa » Fri May 15, 2009 11:17 pm

raamv wrote:
dampa wrote:
raamv wrote: I am a foreigner in Finland
Hyvä, mistä päin oot kotoisin? Does that have to matter if you are an alien from the outer space or what?
raamv wrote:When the Majority of Finns support YLE;
...and who told you?
This is what I hate about you stupids...
I dont need to tell you who told me.. Maybe a little bird..
and just FYI; I do have more contacts than you do so dont start bringing stupid arguments like these..
Onkko has already pointed you out to some good starting point ..instead of arguing for the @#$% s sake of arguing...Find the information yourself before you start disputing..for I am too lazy to start posting links after links just to convince people like you..
What you hate about you stupids? Damn Ram, go s@#k some balls. :evil: I know you have so much contacts, because eniro henkilö search exist. Give me Stubb's number please... would ya? :wink: I can see you are getting high already... you can go slam your head to the wall you lazy moron :evil: confirmed by same Onkko here :ochesey:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Need to add this: Mr. Male Sheep, Ram (intentionally "Ram" you). I know you are one of the Indians living amongst us in Finland. I do have Indian friends here and there and they don't act like a spoilt kid. You are probably one of those Indians with up to 10 Masters degree and even 20 PhDs, but your post up there sounds like from an idiot who haven't passed through Nursery school. What does your contacts from under-age girls in Finland and over 70yr old muoris got to do with this discussion? :roll:

If you can't engage in a constructive discussion even when you have to agree and disagree with others, you are probably not suppose to even have those contacts of yours not to talk of coming here to release yourself when you don't get "it" from them. Is it wrong if I think that compulsorily taxing everyone (even those who dont own or watch YLE) isn't a right thing and that there can be other ways to resolve, that both the people who need and who don't need YLE finally agree? Is it wrong?

Hopefully your swelling & lazy brain can comprehend. If not go jack off if muori won't do this weekend :lol: because I wont tell you to go to where you come from like you yell on every thread on this forum :evil:
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Post by sammy » Fri May 15, 2009 11:23 pm

Dampa, Raamv et al... a dedication to you both - somehow this seems an appropriate time, and it fits the thread subject too :) :beer_yum:

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Post by Upphew » Sat May 16, 2009 12:35 am

sammy wrote:Peace... it's only a f*ckin g telly innit! :P
Thats like saying to muslim that Muhammed was just a shepherd... tv is the modern altar that we worship, nothing more, nothing less :P
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Post by Upphew » Sat May 16, 2009 12:54 am

dampa wrote:Educate people and take care of minorities? :roll:
I didn't write that law.
dampa wrote:You should have not got yourself educated and passed through school and just keep watching TV all your years.
Like education by tv and by school were mutually exclusive? We watched many times "koulu-tv" shows at school. Haven't seen that kind of programs in any other channels than yle's.
dampa wrote:That would have made you what you are here OK.
?
dampa wrote:Plus remember you would have also paid all the YLE taxes all your life too :evil:
I have paid many other taxes too, that haven't brought me anything tangible (pension contribution, before 2005 overhaul). I complain about them, but that doesn't mean that I don't understand why those taxes are collected, especially if I think beyond the "I lost money and it makes me angry"-part. But that's not fun and I expect my chosen representative to do that, even after I send moaning e-mail about things that pisses me off.

Back to the topic... I'd like to see "Media fee" discarded, replaced by YLE tax and YLE more focused and streamlined (how many channels we need to take care of the tasks that are dictated by law?).
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Post by dampa » Sat May 16, 2009 1:08 am

Upphew wrote: I have paid many other taxes too, that haven't brought me anything tangible (pension contribution, before 2005 overhaul). I complain about them, but that doesn't mean that I don't understand why those taxes are collected, especially if I think beyond the "I lost money and it makes me angry"-part. But that's not fun and I expect my chosen representative to do that, even after I send moaning e-mail about things that pisses me off.

...that are dictated by law?).
Like I said, nothing wrong paying for what is used and consumed. I won't in any way think YLE's existence can be compared to socio-economic services, education, health, basic amenities that people in general need. YLE TV isn't a need to me and I do not know when it started to become a need. It is still TV. I am paying and raeady to pay tax for the above mentioned and not YLE :wink:

Maybe the law need to be amended, so that its states that YLE Oy is just like every other "Oy" in Finland :lol:

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Post by AldenG » Sat May 16, 2009 6:30 am

Peace Lover wrote:
Upphew wrote: But where to put the line? YLE is wrong, but higher education is not? Isn't MBA (which costs) enough for people, why should I have to pay so someone can study bachelors and masters in economics?
Generally speaking, studying for a degree is good for the mind of the individual and eventually benefits all society.

The direct opposite of watching TV.

:wink:
That depends on what TV you watch and how much you watch it.

TV as a medium certainly has as much capacity to smarten people up as it has to dumb them down.

For learning languages and cultural yleissivistys it often does a better job than university.
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Post by Peace Lover » Sat May 16, 2009 8:44 pm

I'm not sure if I'd prefer to take my next language degree via YLE Mondo! Thanks, Alden!
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Post by dampa » Sat May 16, 2009 9:05 pm

Peace Lover wrote:I'm not sure if I'd prefer to take my next language degree via YLE Mondo! Thanks, Alden!
:lol:
LMAO :lol: :P :D

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Post by Upphew » Sun May 17, 2009 12:10 am

Peace Lover wrote:I'm not sure if I'd prefer to take my next language degree via YLE Mondo! Thanks, Alden!
:lol:
I'd respect that Yle mondo degree higher than some university degree.
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Post by Karhunkoski » Sun May 17, 2009 11:19 am

Upphew wrote:
Peace Lover wrote:I'm not sure if I'd prefer to take my next language degree via YLE Mondo! Thanks, Alden!
:lol:
I'd respect that Yle mondo degree higher than some university degree.

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Post by Karhunkoski » Sun May 17, 2009 11:21 am

They are busy chaps, they have another university here:

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Post by Karhunkoski » Sun May 17, 2009 11:23 am

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Post by sammy » Sun May 17, 2009 11:32 am

KK, we just recently had a thread on the issue in the Pub :) viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37701


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