my wife got pregnant

triple j · Post by **triple j** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:13 am

hello..i am asking anyone can give some info regarding my status here in finland..i and my wife working here for 14 months already..with same employer..we have working visa lasted for 1 year and just renew our visa for the 2nd time..we live here together with my 5 yrs old son..we are not finnish citizen..but we have already social number and our application in kela dont have yet decision..it was so happen my wife got PREGNANT..i was little worried about her visa status..is there any possibility that her visa are they going to cancel once she stop working and not allowing her to stay here.?.is it the child will be recognized by the government as a citizen? do i have rights to stay my wife and the child with me, as long im still working and have valid working visa?

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Pursuivant · Post by **Pursuivant** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:35 am

Well congratulations. Not much there except battling with KELA for the decision. And you don't have a visa but a residence permit, and its valid as long as its been given for. As for the citizenship of the child, Finland has the system the child gets automatically the citizenship of the mother.

triple j · Post by **triple j** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:32 am

what if my wife need to stop for work and before she will give birth her residence permit will expire and my employer he decide to cut off the contract for her ..is she can still stay here or she need to go back in my country together with our babies.?

Pursuivant · Post by **Pursuivant** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:21 am

Ah, renewal might be a bit tricky. But in principle you cannot make redundant a pregnant woman if they have a valid work contract because shes pregnant - they of course can find some other excuses.

maurine · Post by **maurine** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:00 pm

Congratulation on your hard work : your wife can get support from KELA since she is been working. when she goes to her first visit to maternity clinic she can discuss about the social benefit with the midwife too. its important that she keeps her pay slips since they might ask them in KELA.

triple j · Post by **triple j** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:51 pm

our application in kela are still on processing and waiting for the decision...one thing im little bit worried is ..if she still entitled to stay here even she will not get a new working contract or residence permit? although im still working and have valid residence permit.

maurine · Post by **maurine** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:09 pm

triple j wrote:our application in kela are still on processing and waiting for the decision...one thing im little bit worried is ..if she still entitled to stay here even she will not get a new working contract or residence permit? although im still working and have valid residence permit.

yes. i think so.

triple j · Post by **triple j** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:11 pm

thanks a lot for the information and suggestions..anyone can give more advice are welcome..i appreciate it.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:42 pm

If the Kela decision has taken long time waiting, maybe you could ask them directly, indicating why you think the matter is bit urgent. For the residence permit related questions, you could send an email to Migri and inquire what is the policy in this kind of situations. As pointed by others, forget the citizenship. Your child will get the citizenship of you and your wife, the Finnish state will not donate another one (this is not U.S.A).

If your wife has been member of an union, she might get some useful legal advice from there regarding the continuation of her contract she can not be fired because of getting pregnant or giving birth, but getting the contract renewed is a much trickier problem....

triple j · Post by **triple j** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:23 pm

me and my wife have same employer..and we working in a restaurant and i can say its a private company(dont have union)..our employer give us a yearly working contract..and we did not told yet that my wife shes pregnant..(6 weeks pregnant) we do like it or not she need to stop for work on her 8 months pregnancy..

EP · Post by EP » Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:57 pm

we do like it or not she need to stop for work on her 8 months pregnancy..

I am not sure if I understand what you mean. Women usually work 8 months out of their 9 months long pregnancy. Thay start maternity leave one month before birth.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:15 am

Maternity allowance period starts 5-8 weeks before due date. (http://www.kela.fi/in/internet/english. ... enDocument - assuming here that Kela will consider her now entitled to Finnish social security) Your wife's contract will last do it's original date (so some 4 months after the birth of the child). Employer of course generally has no obligation to renew a temporary contract, but if directly hires somebody else to do the same job then that could be considered illegal discrimination against your wife.

For residence permit questions in the case your wife is not able to keep her job I still recommend you to contact Migri.

Pursuivant · Post by **Pursuivant** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:44 am

triple j wrote:and we working in a restaurant and i can say its a private company(dont have union)..our employer give us a yearly working contract.

Which has nothing to do with the fact that:
a) work contract law and union rules apply regardless of having a local chapter or you belonging to an union. all workers are equal so you cannot pay someone a lower salary or have different rules just because they are not in an union
b) you can join the restaurant workers union at any time, you just need to pay your own contribution if you don't want your employer to dock it
c) you should at least join an unemployment fund as otherwise you don't get any dole if you get unemployed

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