1MB for everyone

Where to buy? Where can I find? How do I? Getting started.
Post Reply
hychamaz
Posts: 323
Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:39 pm
Location: Järvenpää

1MB for everyone

Post by hychamaz » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:43 pm

What does the new law stárting next July mean as on YlE? Everyone can get 1MB but is there a limit on cost??? Will it cost me 200 euros a month at my summer cottage far North Easr in Savo??? What does this realllyu mean. (Hank maybe u know more about this than cars).


Image

1MB for everyone

Sponsor:

Finland Forum Ad-O-Matic
 

Jukka Aho
Posts: 5237
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:46 am
Location: Espoo, Finland

Re: 1MB for everyone

Post by Jukka Aho » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:43 pm

hychamaz wrote:What does the new law stárting next July mean as on YlE? Everyone can get 1MB but is there a limit on cost??? Will it cost me 200 euros a month at my summer cottage far North Easr in Savo??? What does this realllyu mean.
Here’s the original communication from the Ministry of Transport and Communications. Basically, 1 Mbps service (at minimum) is elevated to the status of “universal service”. (This “universal service” is a specific concept defined in the EU directives, as it appears.)

The telecommunications companies designated by the authorities as being responsible for offering “universal service” in the country must be able to provide at least 1 Mbps Internet connections to their customers beginning from July 1st, 2010. This minimum level of connectivity needs to be available to both private homes (residential buildings) and to companies (normal business premises at fixed locations) at “a reasonable price” and with certain guaranteed quality of service (at least 75% of the required bandwidth during a 24-hour measurement period and at least 50% of the required bandwidth during a 4-hour measurement period.)

This is not to say that you couldn’t subscribe to slower and cheaper-rated service if you don’t need 1 Mbps, but the 1 Mbps option needs to be available to you in case you’d want to subscribe to it.
znark

Jukka Aho
Posts: 5237
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:46 am
Location: Espoo, Finland

Re: 1MB for everyone

Post by Jukka Aho » Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:08 pm

This article has more details. The act concerns sparsely populated areas outside the cities and towns. It applies to permanently inhabited residences for individuals and active points of presence for businesses – not each and every summer cottage or storage shed in the backwoods.

The act does not dictate the technology (it could be wireless, for instance) but the companies are not allowed to set monthly caps on the traffic for this type of service. The Ministry will also monitor the pricing on the market to ensure the price level for “universal service” will stay “reasonable”.
znark

hychamaz
Posts: 323
Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:39 pm
Location: Järvenpää

Re: 1MB for everyone

Post by hychamaz » Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:54 pm

Thank you Jukka Aho for your wonderful response. You went way out of your way to answer my question. I thank you so much for that. You obviously spent a long time typing. Thank you. Much of teh tiem I get sly responses to questions but answers like yours brings back my faith in this forum. I cant thank you enough. :beer_yum:
Image

User avatar
network_engineer
Posts: 858
Joined: Wed Nov 26, 2003 10:21 am

Re: 1MB for everyone

Post by network_engineer » Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:34 pm

1 MB!!! Bah! :( :roll:

And do what with it? Twiddle my thumbs? As for those overjoyed about 1 MB, this is about the local circuit, i.e. to the ISPs PE! Of course, if we were talking a 1MB reserved clean pipe to the Internet... that'd be a slightly different story! As for me, Universal service should have been at the minimum 24 MB FTH!

And then again, why on earth would a business enterprise go with a 1MB circuit? They should send their [e]mails using a pigeon! :roll:
Last edited by network_engineer on Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
raamv
Posts: 6875
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:58 pm
Location: Church Moor, Krykslatt

Re: 1MB for everyone

Post by raamv » Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:36 pm

network_engineer wrote:1 MB!!! Bah! :( :roll:

And do what with it? Twiddle my thumbs? As for those overjoyed about 1 MB, this is about the local circuit, i.e. to the ISPs PE! Of course, if we were talking a 1MB reserved clean pipe to the Internet... that'd be a slightly different story! As for me, Universal service should have been at the minimum 24 MB FTH!

And then again, why on earth would a business enterprise go with a 1MB circuit?
wait for the next amendment to the law...



in a decade... :wink:
Image
Image

User avatar
network_engineer
Posts: 858
Joined: Wed Nov 26, 2003 10:21 am

Re: 1MB for everyone

Post by network_engineer » Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:40 pm

:( :cry: :x :roll:

Now I lay me down to sleep!

:( :cry: :x :roll:

tuulen
Posts: 1661
Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:18 am
Location: New England, USA

Re: 1MB for everyone

Post by tuulen » Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:57 am

In the US, something similar is happening, and politically the matter is known as *network neutrality*. Basically, Internet service providers (ISPs) have discovered how to make more financial profit by *regulating* the speed of Internet traffic, or even by blocking Internet traffic, for reasons having to do with commercial advertising. And, ISPs favor regulating the online speed of individual customers by billing them for the amount of Internet bandwidth they use.

User avatar
rinso
Posts: 3949
Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:22 pm

Re: 1MB for everyone

Post by rinso » Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:52 am

Our commune launched a plan to provide everybody with (potential) access to an optical fibre system. Probably in preparation of the next step to 10MB in a couple of years.
The grid is laid out so that nobody is more than 2 km from the main line. They only have to pay for the connection to the line. But that cost €7,-/meter. So it could cost you up to €14.000,- to get that fast connection.

User avatar
ajdias
Posts: 2544
Joined: Sun May 04, 2003 9:01 pm

Re: 1MB for everyone

Post by ajdias » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:58 pm


User avatar
SteveS
Posts: 176
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:13 am
Location: Vantaa

Re: 1MB for everyone

Post by SteveS » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:25 pm

network_engineer wrote:1 MB!!! Bah! :( :roll:

And do what with it? Twiddle my thumbs? As for those overjoyed about 1 MB, this is about the local circuit, i.e. to the ISPs PE! Of course, if we were talking a 1MB reserved clean pipe to the Internet... that'd be a slightly different story! As for me, Universal service should have been at the minimum 24 MB FTH!

And then again, why on earth would a business enterprise go with a 1MB circuit? They should send their [e]mails using a pigeon! :roll:
So you're not interested to buy my old 14400 modem then? :lol: :lol:

maxxfi
Posts: 471
Joined: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:04 pm
Location: Espoo

Re: 1MB for everyone

Post by maxxfi » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:35 pm

ajdias wrote:This story made it to /. http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/10/14 ... d?from=rss
It made also to TC: "Applause for Finland" http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/14/ap ... gal-right/ and many other geek/technical news and blogs
Maxxfi


Post Reply