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ladygrey
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need a psychiatrist for rx

Post by ladygrey » Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:13 pm

I was wondering if anyone had any info to share on where I could get prescriptions for antidepressants that I need to restart. I'm on a tourist visa at the moment (from the US) but might be applying for residence based on family ties. I'm not as familiar with the private health care system here...where's the best place to start if I want to book an appointment with a psychiatrist? Should I look at some smaller practices or try a place like Mehilainen? My Finnish friend says that even the private docs will most likely be heavily booked up and that it might take me several weeks to get a time with one. Is there truth to this? Any other nonresident or non-citizen pay out of pocket for private mental health care here? How did you go about that? Would really appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.



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Post by brengun » Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:51 pm

hi,lady grey' seeing a private practitioner would be the best solution, though, if you went along to the hospital emmergency unit and explained the situ, its poss, you may get a prescription pronto,, overegg, it a bit, like its urgent etc. and you should be ok. . Private consultations are about80 euros per visit.. alternatively if you want to take your chances order online and show that you have a script,. i know we,ll have the usual crew of sisu monitors jumping in here,, good luck.
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Post by kalmisto » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:24 pm

ladygrey

not exactly what you asked for but good to know ( text in English ) :
http://www.infopankki.fi/en-GB/crises_Helsinki_region/

The SOS Centre :
http://www.mielenterveysseura.fi/en/help_in_crises

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Post by Pursuivant » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:19 pm

The thing with the doctors is indeed that you need to find one available to take new patients, but say like Mehiläinen would be a place to start. (by the doctors name you see the languages he speaks and availability and reception times)
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Re: need a psychiatrist for rx

Post by brengun » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:40 pm

kalmisto wrote:ladygrey

not exactly what you asked for but good to know ( text in English ) :
http://www.infopankki.fi/en-GB/crises_Helsinki_region/

The SOS Centre :
http://www.mielenterveysseura.fi/en/help_in_crises
thats a really good bit of info. . only thing they need to change,(in infopankki,) Marian sairaala has moved,, its now a little further from the centre, and is called Haartman, and they have 24 hr emmergency,i think, but fone first..31034398 or 31046361 to chek
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Post by brengun » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:24 am

ladygrey wrote:I was wondering if anyone had any info to share on where I could get prescriptions for antidepressants that I need to restart. I'm on a tourist visa at the moment (from the US) but might be applying for residence based on family ties. I'm not as familiar with the private health care system here...where's the best place to start if I want to book an appointment with a psychiatrist? Should I look at some smaller practices or try a place like Mehilainen? My Finnish friend says that even the private docs will most likely be heavily booked up and that it might take me several weeks to get a time with one. Is there truth to this? Any other nonresident or non-citizen pay out of pocket for private mental health care here? How did you go about that? Would really appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.
. .. I know its a long quote, but very touching and honest, and therefore worth reposting ,,,and ladygrey, it would be good feedback if you let us know how you fared at the various places mentioned. thanks
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Post by kalmisto » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:48 pm

>> ,,,and ladygrey, it would be good feedback if you let us know how you fared at the various places mentioned. <<

Yes, that would be interesting and by telling us what happened ladygrey could give useful advice and information to others in need.

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Post by raamv » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:29 pm

brengun wrote:hi,lady grey' seeing a private practitioner would be the best solution, though, if you went along to the hospital emmergency unit and explained the situ, its poss, you may get a prescription pronto,, overegg, it a bit, like its urgent etc. and you should be ok. . Private consultations are about80 euros per visit.. alternatively if you want to take your chances order online and show that you have a script,. i know we,ll have the usual crew of sisu monitors jumping in here,, good luck.
Please dont give stupid foreigner advices here ....
Mental health and emergency are poles apart..trying that avenue will only get you rejected..( http://www.112.fi/index.php?langID=2 before you claim an emergency )..
One important thing that you might want to check with any private clinics is whether they accept your International insurance coverage...Otherwise, even the a basic consultation visit might be more..
Most likely, you need to pay upfront and then claim with your insurance company later on...
brengun has been here very recently has very limited experience of giving advice here...
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Post by AldenG » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:12 pm

With the modern antidepressants, running out can be an emergency for some people. Apparently this is not the case with ladygrey, else she wouldn't be posting so calmly and matter-of-factly about it. But it happens to some.

I don't know if a Finnish ER would recognize it as an emergency -- raamv probably has a valid point there -- but the rebound when these medications are stopped suddenly can be substantial. At its worst, the result can be suicidal impulses/behavior or violent impulses/behavior towards other people.

To clarify, "rebound" is a phenomenon with some types of meds, including some psychotropic meds, where sudden cessation causes the condition being treated not merely to revert to unmedicated state, but to continue temporarily PAST the unmedicated state well into the anti-controlled direction, the way a released rope-swing or other pendulum doesn't stop on reaching its center position but swings to a nearly equal distance beyond its center state. Rebound is not identical to withdrawal; rather it is one potential component of withdrawal (usually the first one to appear).

All the modern antidepressants have potential for significant withdrawal (approximately equal in strength and duration to benzodiazepine withdrawal) although the data on this were originally withheld from publication and disclosure to regulatory authorities. They should all be tapered gradually when quitting, using the same caution used to quit other medications with the potential for withdrawal symptoms. Not only is it safer that way, it's also the only way to determine whether one possibly doesn't need the medication any more. When quitting too quickly, it becomes likely to confuse the temporary rebound with how one would feel long-term without the medication.
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Post by brengun » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:29 am

raamv wrote:
brengun wrote:hi,lady grey' seeing a private practitioner would be the best solution, though, if you went along to the hospital emmergency unit and explained the situ, its poss, you may get a prescription pronto,, overegg, it a bit, like its urgent etc. and you should be ok. . Private consultations are about80 euros per visit.. alternatively if you want to take your chances order online and show that you have a script,. i know we,ll have the usual crew of sisu monitors jumping in here,, good luck.
Please dont give stupid foreigner advices here ..
brengun has been here very recently has very limited experience of giving advice here...
. .. ................ i can begin to see why ladygrey and others might need antidepressants, , lets hope that raamv will be visited by some instant karma,, only to wake him up. if you know what i mean,.
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Post by onkko » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:55 am

brengun wrote:alternatively if you want to take your chances order online and show that you have a script
Well to get a prescription you need to see a finnish(eu?) doctor and when you have finnish(eu?) prescription you may in some cases order maximum of 3 months need of medicine from eec country or...


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