treatment for children at the dentist

oompah18 · Post by **oompah18** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:24 pm

My 6 yr old slipped on the ice tonight & fell head first to the ground, knocking out his 2, big, relatively new, top, front teeth, well, all except for a teeny bit of one tooth still hanging there. I couldn´t believe how much damage could happen! He is still in shock but gave him a large dose of children´s paracetamol & he´s asleep now. So tomorrow morning we visit our local dentist (it´s part of the neuvola, where you can only book a doctor´s or dentist´s appointment 8-11am weekdays , but I still dread using the phone in Finnish so I prefer to speak face to face- that way I understand a little more! )
Anyone had this experience with their kids? Do they do implants? does it count as an emergency so may it happen sooner rather than later? Is it very expensive? After this event, should we take out private dentistry insurance for all 4 kids? My Finnish husband, who has been in hospital for 3 wks, with a nasty stomach infection, (dialysis related) has no idea about this sort of thing, nor does he, unfortunately, have any idea when he will return home to us....
Anyway, I just wondered what may happen.
Once my son had stopped crying he just seemed concerned not about the pain, or the fact that he couldn´t talk or eat properly, but just wanted to know when he could play the trumpet again

(I have been teaching him on my trumpet for the past 2 weeks & he practises every day, bless him

At least he doesn´t have to go to school tomorrow or monday, the teachers have pakkoloma

Thanks for listening

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ajdias · Post by **ajdias** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:14 pm

oompah18 wrote:Anyone had this experience with their kids? Do they do implants? does it count as an emergency so may it happen sooner rather than later? Is it very expensive? After this event, should we take out private dentistry insurance for all 4 kids? My Finnish husband, who has been in hospital for 3 wks, with a nasty stomach infection, (dialysis related) has no idea about this sort of thing, nor does he, unfortunately, have any idea when he will return home to us....

Seens like the patient is doing much better than his mom

This happened one month ago to my soon to be 6year old, ut was a nasty fall in the kindergarden. We went to the emergency services of the children's hospital (in Hki, my mistake) the same evening and the next morning (saturday) we visited the general services for a thorough dental checkup.The doctors wanted to see if the permanent teeth (underneath) were damaged - they were not. They also told me to book a checkup for the next week.
So, in answer to you, it is treated as an emergency if it is seen as one. Don't think there was any cost for this. Btw, regular dental treatment is free until kids turn 19, IIRC.

EP · Post by EP » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:16 pm

I am sorry. your heart really hurts when your child hurts.

My son was 13-14 when he fell from his bike and lost all four upper front teeth. I had to take him to Puolarmetsä emergency the same day because he also had a huge wound across his forehead and it needed stitches, and there also was suspicion that his nose is broken (luckily it wasn´t). The dentist did some job, but it didn´t turn out too good, they were not pretty. But at least he looked about normal. They said that he will get implants in a few years when he does not grow any more.

He was 15-16 when I took him to my own dentist, who was also the dentist of Finnish ice hockey team, so plenty of implant experience. He made the implants. BUT at that time I had a little more money than I have now, so I didn´t have to think about that. A couple of years later he would have had free implants from the public side.

Rosamunda · Post by **Rosamunda** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:16 pm

The daughter of a friend of mine in France lost her two top front teeth in a fall. The dentist fitted her with a brace which brought the other two incisors (most normal people have four on top) towards the middle to close the gap. I'm not sure if this is normal practice but I would GUESS that the younger you are the easier it is to do this. It would also depend on how big the outer incisors are because some people have tombstones in the front and then smaller incisors to the right and left (my kids are like that). Alternatively I should think it is possible to close in the outer incisors and then cap them if they are undersize.

Sorry to hear your husband is back in hospital.

ATB

Amandine.K · Post by **Amandine.K** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:44 pm

Oh Allie sorry to read your husband is in hospital. Are you coping ok?

oompah18 · Post by **oompah18** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:12 am

Thanks for the replies, makes me feel better to hear from others! haven´t been on here much lately. Hubby was doing really well, life was fine, he was back at work, till mid sept when he got a stomach infection. he felt fine, it was just he noticed his outgoing dialysis liquid was the wrong colour (sorry if you are squeamish!). He needs antibiotics imixed with his dialysis liquid, a procedure they can only do at hospital, so he just sits around surfing or doing reading research all day in hosp, while they mix the antibiotics for him 4 times in 24 hrs. in sept, when it happened, he was allowed home or to work for a few hrs each day, in between treatments, as he could cycle - good weather. Now, the infection returned mid Oct, as there is not a regular bus from the hospital to our village & nasty weather, he just stays put, or goes to work, which IS on a bus route from there! So he gets on with life but we don´t see him much! We can´t afford the 45eur each way taxi fare. So my friends occasionally pick him up & we get him home for a few hours! The doc thinks that he could have had enough antibiotics by the end of next week, so we shall see.
I am not grumbling, we DID manage a family holiday in Lapland for a whole week (the nearest medical centre delivered his medical supplies to the rental cottage.) And coming back on the train we had a family cabin, the one under the kids playarea, (20 euros extra, bargain) so he was able to do dialysis in private.
If I described our trip to Lapland (10 hrs sleeping in triple bunks on the night train, followed by 4 hrs of bus with vomiting kids both ways) that would be a whole new post in itself, but I will spare you the details

But one final thing, i have got to say that my kids have really grown up this summer & seem to understand slightly at least that when someone is sick, life has to change a little.
good night!

oompah18 · Post by **oompah18** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:50 pm

Wow, dentist saw my lad within the hour & fixed him totally, with instructions for him to eat soup & soft food for a while!Haven´t had the bill yet, but she did ask whether we had insurance or not.......
Youngest got the swineflu vaccination at the same time, hubby has now had vaccination too.
life goes on, hubby needs one more week of antibiotics, so he might get home from hospital before little one´s first birthday on 21st.
Now I have lost a filling, so here we go again...
bye

Rosamunda · Post by **Rosamunda** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:10 am

So how did the dentist fix his teeth? Did he glue them back in again???? Or were they just his milk teeth?

Will you all get the flu jab due to your husband's illness or is it just the small ones who get it?

Anyway, good to hear the teeth are fixed.
P

raamv · Post by **raamv** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:40 pm

Oompah.. Try to find out whether KELA would cover without Insurance...
and if not, then try to ask MLL if they can help ..
I hope the Best for you..!!

oompah18 · Post by **oompah18** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:32 am

I don´t know exactly what the dentist did, but the replacement looks exactly like the original (big, slightly lopsided, & makes him look slightly like goofy!!!). Thanks for the tip about asking kela, when I get the bill. As for sikainfluenssa, maybe the whole village has it, or maybe they are all staying inside as a precaution, but we went to the parish-run, weekly, family playgroup, usually with 20 plus mums n tots, as well as the homedaycare ladies with kids. But this week there was only 3 homedaycare ladies & me, & 3 staff with nothing much too do, so we ate loads of food, but it was a bit eery!
Hubby came home for the weekend, he has now gone back to hosp, just till Tuesday they promise, then home (until he gets another infection), can´t wait!.....
Allie

brengun · Post by **brengun** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:13 am

Great story ,with a happy ending , and you seem so mentally strong. .I hope it was the little boy,s milk teeth. yes?, My daughter had a similar accident in a rollerskate park on her14th birthday , and the front tooth had a crack across it. I had hoped that the dentist would have tried to save it but ..horror.no, he didn,t even try.. but proceeded to have an implant fitted. It wasn,t a very good one and it cost quite a lot to have a replacement.. for a long time my daughter became self- conscious of smiling.( i tried to console her by pointing out how fab. Shane mcGowan is., she didn,t buy that. ) Anyway, you seem most resourceful and strong. best wishes..

sinikala · Post by **sinikala** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:29 pm

oompah18 wrote:My 6 yr old slipped on the ice tonight & fell head first to the ground, knocking out his 2, big, relatively new, top, front teeth, well, all except for a teeny bit of one tooth still hanging there. I couldn´t believe how much damage could happen! He is still in shock but gave him a large dose of children´s paracetamol & he´s asleep now. So tomorrow morning we visit our local dentist (it´s part of the neuvola, where you can only book a doctor´s or dentist´s appointment 8-11am weekdays , but I still dread using the phone in Finnish so I prefer to speak face to face- that way I understand a little more! )

First, good to hear that your kid has been sorted.

I'm a bit surprised that your kid had to wait until the next day for treatment. Don't they have emergency dental treatment in Finland? It's not something he should have had to wait overnight for (unless you are seriously out in the sticks) ... even then the "local" A&E surely has a dentist on call?

At least in Hki I don't believe it would not have to wait until the next day

http://www.hel2.fi/terveyskeskus/englis ... ental.html

Isn't there a dentist on here? Odon? He should be able to clarify.

Rosamunda · Post by **Rosamunda** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:58 pm

sinikala wrote: (unless you are seriously out in the sticks) ....

I think this is in fact the situation in oompah's case. I have an emergency dentist on my doorstep (Puolarmetsä) but he is "on call" so last time my husband went there for a root canal emergency on a Sunday afternoon (a few hours before flying out on business - ouch!) he still had to wait a couple of hours for the dentist to arrive. If you have four VERY small kids and at least one of them is in pain, and the dentist is an hour or so away and you don't have a car (and buses only once a day), then "emergency" has a different meaning.

I'm am in awe of Oompah's resilience - I don't think I would survive more than 3 days outside Keha III, with or without a car and a husband on dialysis.

Even in the UK, not everyone has access to emergency dental treatment (some people don't even have access to regular check ups on the NHS).

But I agree 100% sinikala, ideally all kids should get free treatment, whatever they need. That's what I pay taxes for.

oompah18 · Post by **oompah18** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:24 pm

Yep, Penelope has it right, nowheremäki, few buses, only one shop, ATM, little used pub, lots of playparks, first school, lakes & cyclepaths.Oh yes, a little neuvola & dentist, but no full time doctor there. But it´s my little bit of paradise, honestly, & I wouldn´t live anywhere else

I only seem to write on the forum to moan, but it is far better to moan to strangers here in English, than to try it in my terrible Finnish, to my neighbours & friends

EP · Post by EP » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:34 pm

Allie, you don´t moan.

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