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Ready made frozen pastry

Post by Cloudberry » Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:29 pm

Wondering if anyone can shed some light on the different types of frozen pastry you can find in the supermarket. Which is which? More specifically I'd like to know which is puff pastry and which is shortcrust pastry. In K Citymarket I think I counted about 6 different types of frozen ready-made pastry :?


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Re: Ready made frozen pastry

Post by EP » Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:40 pm

Do you mean dough?

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Re: Ready made frozen pastry

Post by maxxfi » Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:40 pm

Let's start from:

voitaikina -> puff pastry
murotaikina -> shortctrust pastry
filo-taikina -> filo pastry

Which one of those you found in KC is not yet included in this list?
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Re: Ready made frozen pastry

Post by EP » Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:53 pm

There is also "piirastaikina" (pie pastry) that is good also for salty pies. You get two types of that, one with rye. Then there is "pullataikina", well, pulla pastry. Otherwise good but too much sugar for my taste. What else? Filo pastry is also called "lehtitaikina", and "piparkakkutaikina" is the brown cinnamon stuff that you use for Christmas cookies.

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Re: Ready made frozen pastry

Post by Rosamunda » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:25 pm

maxxfi wrote:Let's start from:


murotaikina -> shortctrust pastry
This is NOT what I would call shortcrust pastry. It is closer to what the French call a "pâte sucré" and almost close to a biscuit (or shortbread). It is great for blueberry tart for example but the only way to roll it out is between two sheets of baking paper. For me the "piirastaikina" is closest to shortcrust. I would use it to make a quiche for example.

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Re: Ready made frozen pastry

Post by Jukka Aho » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:47 pm

maxxfi wrote:Which one of those you found in KC is not yet included in this list?
The Sunnuntai brand has...
  1. kauramurotaikina
  2. kevyt ruispiirakkataikina
  3. murotaikina
  4. perunataikina
  5. ruismurotaikina
  6. ruisperunataikina
  7. pullataikina
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Re: Ready made frozen pastry

Post by maxxfi » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:25 pm

penelope wrote: It is closer to what the French call a "pâte sucré" and almost close to a biscuit (or shortbread).
What's the English name for it, sweetcrust ? Or is it still different?
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Re: Ready made frozen pastry

Post by Cloudberry » Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:18 pm

penelope wrote:
maxxfi wrote:Let's start from:
murotaikina -> shortctrust pastry
This is NOT what I would call shortcrust pastry. It is closer to what the French call a "pâte sucré" and almost close to a biscuit (or shortbread). It is great for blueberry tart for example but the only way to roll it out is between two sheets of baking paper. For me the "piirastaikina" is closest to shortcrust. I would use it to make a quiche for example.
So would piirastiakina be good for making Aussie/British style meat pies? I want to use a shortcrust for the bottom of the pies and a puff pastry for the top. I could make my own from scratch but the recipe for meat pie shortcrust pastry has lard and of course I haven't been able to find lard (larddi?) in citymarket either.
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Re: Ready made frozen pastry

Post by Rosamunda » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:32 am

Yes, I would probably put piirakkataikina on the bottom and the voitaikina/lehtitaikina on top.
Lehtitaikina is more like flaky/puff pastry than filo. The only difference with the voitaikina is that is doesn't contain butter.

Citymarket (K market) has their own brand of frozen pastries but I don't think Prisma/Rainbow does one.

There have been threads about lard. I seem to remember some people have said they use Cocos (white vegetable fat). I've never tried it: I'm not so sure the hydrogenated veg fats are very healthy. But then again, the Sunnuntai doughs all contain the stuff.

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Re: Ready made frozen pastry

Post by tuulen » Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:04 pm

penelope wrote:...I'm not so sure the hydrogenated veg fats are very healthy. But then again, the Sunnuntai doughs all contain the stuff.
Over here in the US, hydrogenated fats and oils have been on the "no-no" list for years.

They are not illegal, but they are not considered to be healthy.

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Re: Ready made frozen pastry

Post by Cloudberry » Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:23 pm

penelope wrote:I'm not so sure the hydrogenated veg fats are very healthy. But then again, the Sunnuntai doughs all contain the stuff.
I'm making Aussie meat pies - they are not really a health food :lol:

Jokes aside, yeah I know what you mean - lard will clog your arteries and hydrogenated vegetable fats will give you cancer. Neither seems very appealing but I think the lard might be the lesser of the two evils :wink:
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Re: Ready made frozen pastry

Post by jtammilehto » Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:15 pm

Any comments on 'quality' re brands offered?

There sure in hell is huge difference in pricing!

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Re: Ready made frozen pastry

Post by longgo » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:58 am

Does someone know from where i can find that butter layer paistry that was for sale in LIDL before .. Yellow pack.
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Re: Ready made frozen pastry

Post by EP » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:12 pm

Well, Sunnuntai is in a yellow pack. That is in every supermarket. But if it was some foreign brand, no idea.

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Re: Ready made frozen pastry

Post by Jukka Aho » Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:18 pm

Is “butter layer paistry” lehtitaikina or voitaikina or something different still? (Actually, Google says No results found for "butter layer paistry", using the quotes.)
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