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Do I have a chance?

Post by help » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:48 am

Hello!

Do I have a chance to get a job at age of 19 in Helsinki if I don't know finnish? Only english... to pay university taxes and everything... :/



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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by interleukin » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:21 pm

Uh, the short answer is that you will most likely have a hard time finding a job. The long answer is that you might give more info about yourself if you want a useful answer. For example, are you EU/nonEU? If you are EU you can come here more easily to find out how things really are and meet with people. And you would be easier to hire than a non-EU person. Also, what kind of a job are you after? Do you have any degrees or special skills? And how is your Finnish? Do you know anyone in Finland who would might hire you?
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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by interleukin » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:26 pm

Ok, so I just saw in one of your other threads that you are EU. Unless you have been to Finland before for a few weeks, come here for a visit and see how it actually is.
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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by help » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:27 pm

I am EU.

I don't look for hard job, I would like job while I am at University, something simple, to pay my taxes and everything.

My finnish is bad now, but I'm learning it from now on in next 3 years.

I have some finnish friends there, but I don't know anybody who can hire me.

But no use, I wont make it at University there... :(

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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by interleukin » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:31 pm

Ok, even shorter answer. Your chances of finding a job while you are at the university are ca 0.0001%.

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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by help » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:33 pm

I know... and this was my only hope and my only future and now it's over. :(

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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by interleukin » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:38 pm

If you are not even 20 yet, and you have decided for some reason that medical studies in Finland are your only hope... then you are being really dramatic and silly and not looking into very many options, are you?
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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by help » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:40 pm

Im just 16. :(
I just thought that i could study there because i know somebody from Romania who did it...
I dont know what was in my head, i cant anymore...

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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by rinso » Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:35 pm

Im just 16. :(
Forget about the whole thing till you finished school in three years.
Then look at the situation if you still want it, and if so, what are the options then.
It is useless to worry about that situation now.

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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by Pursuivant » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:30 pm

Nu mai fi o dramă regină.
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Something wicked this way comes."

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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by sammy » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:35 pm

Well... 16 years of age, planning Medical university studies in an unknown language and renting a 3-room apartment in Helsinki on a student budget (without even the KELA student grant)...

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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by Ads » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:13 pm

Errr... I don't know why everyone's put it down to a writing your chances off, of course you have a chance.

I have worked for WWF as an English speaking "Facer" with very little knowledge of the Finnish language & done perfectly fine. (Which pays more than enough for a students needs).

Not only that but if you apply & are granted entry into one of the Universities you can apply for KELA Student Allowance, you could also apply for a student grant.

If you're willing to work hard and not get upset every time you get a no, you'll eventually find a job. Just keep your head up & keep going. If everyone gave up every time they were told they couldn't do something we wouldn't have Airplanes, Satellites, Space Shuttles & many other things.

The great thing about University here in Finland is that if you get in you don't pay for it, like back in Australia where I'm from.

My advice is work hard at school now, take some Finnish lessons with a tutor & work at it on your own. Get an after school job now & start saving. There is student accommodation available for students which is more than adequate for a 19 year old.

Best of luck to you, you're very ambitious, but if you're committed & work hard you'll realize your dreams.
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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by interleukin » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:34 pm

He can apply as much as he wants to KELA, but he will not get anything since he would be coming to Finland to study.

He is planning to join the medical doctor studies in Finland and he is 16. If he finds a part time job or not is kind of the least of his worries right now.
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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by sammy » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:00 pm

Ads wrote:Errr... I don't know why everyone's put it down to a writing your chances off
What we've said is that applying for studying Medicine can be a pretty tough nut to crack - without Finnish or Swedish skills, it's more or less impossible. As well as renting a 3-room flat of his own in Helsinki on the budget that will most likely not include the KELA student grant. (If he has no other grounds for living permanently in Finland than studying, that's off the window)

Strictly speaking even the above is not "impossible" -it does not require flapping one's arms and flying twice around the planet Saturn, only very good language learning skills, a well-padded wallet, and last but not least a great whacking big dollop of individual initiative - but the chances seem pretty thin, especially when it comes to the last item on that list - his first line of approach to all questions seems to be "help me" (which basically means "I want it all on a silver plate and you're naughty persons if you tell me I can't have it without any effort whatsoever!")

He or she is not willing to think of any other options, for some reason... like perhaps studying something else, finding a student flat like most other students do and so on... pfft.

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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by rinso » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:33 pm

Ads wrote:Errr... I don't know why everyone's put it down to a writing your chances off, of course you have a chance.
And that chance is how big?
Not only that but if you apply & are granted entry into one of the Universities you can apply for KELA Student Allowance, you could also apply for a student grant.
As said before: you can apply, but getting it is something completely different.
If you're willing to work hard and not get upset every time you get a no, you'll eventually find a job.
There are many people on this forum who didn't succeed in finding a job in 1 to 2 years.
The great thing about University here in Finland is that if you get in you don't pay for it, like back in Australia where I'm from.
That's why there are much more applicants than places and there is a rigid selection system.
There is student accommodation available for students which is more than adequate for a 19 year old.
Again in the major cities there is more interest than places. You might end up waiting a long time (in which time you have to pay the private market price)


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