Do I have a chance?

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sammy
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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by sammy » Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:21 pm

Pursuivant wrote:I think the unicorns horn has a point?
If you gather enough unicorns, these points can secure you a study placement in Finland.



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Pursuivant
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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by Pursuivant » Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:22 pm

Ads wrote: You're not the kids mother are you?
if I was I'd be planning to invent a time machine to get an abortion.
"By the pricking of my thumbs,
Something wicked this way comes."

tiago
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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by tiago » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:01 am

Ads is :thumbsup: ; Pursuivant is :thumbsdown: , basically a traditional idiot......get a life

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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by Tiwaz » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:51 am

Ads wrote:It's a sad state of affairs when people deem it necessary to subject others to their biting words & scathing pessimism. When, as has been pointed out, it's a dog eat dog world, why do you need to make it harder? Is it because some DARES to voice their dream?

Maybe this is born of their own frustrations with the so called "cold harsh world" we live in, maybe the naysayers themselves have had dreams of !"#¤% rainbows, lollipops & sunshine. Then when they've been unleashed they've fallen into their own pit of reality.

Life is tough. Being positive & optimistic is not idiocy. Being positive & optimistic without being grounded is. I believe that my advice was well founded. I gave facts and didn't shoot the kid down for asking. I didn't say that everything was going to fall into his lap. I did say that if he worked hard he could do it.

Why make life needlessly harder? It's not as if my advice was "Think of a unicorn & ALL your dreams will come true!!!"
Needlessly harder?

Let's list what OP has and wants.

OP is 16.
Wants to come to study medicine in Finland around age of 19.

In 3 years, to be able to do that, OP has to achieve the following:
1) Fluency in Finnish to level where OP actually can study very complicated things... IN FINNISH!
2) High enough grades that he has any shot to get to study medicine and pass entrance exam.
3) Enough money to make sure he has economical chance to study.

This all OP has to achieve in Romania was it?

Being positive and optimistic about those chances leads me to say that he has no chance in hell.

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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by lipko » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:59 pm

EDIT: forget it, out of context

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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by xeno2 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:40 pm

Maybe you want to give up with this "I want to be a doctor" thing.

Look at your situation, your a 19 year old kid from romania who doesn't even speak finnish. How the hell are you there at all? Bought a plane ticket out there and living on social care or what?

Your best bet is to get some simple job, taking out newspaper, work in a store, buy and deliver food for people or drive a truck.
Even with these you would make more money then you would in your dump country. So after 3-4 years you could go back to romania with your spared money buy a flat start a uni and become a doctor.

I know a lot of dick people back at eastern europe who got rich the same way. They went out for cleaning toilets to the usa and other countries then got millionaires in their own country. Sadly many of them with degrees and 10y+ invested in universities.

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Re: Do I have a chance?

Post by snorlonikins » Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:27 am

Ads wrote:If people ask for help the very least I can do is to give some positive reinforcement. Not just shoot them down with arbitration.

I've discovered that there seems to be a mindset of "Think REALISTICALLY" here in Finland. Which has been interpreted to me as "If we don't expect the best, then it's a positive surprise if the best happens". Which is !"#¤% & only a small part of the problem with integration in Finland. People need hope to keep going when they get turned down.

Their chances are slim & maybe their sights are set a little too high for living quarters. But it does not mean that the individual in question cannot do it.
There are many people on this forum who didn't succeed in finding a job in 1 to 2 years.
Yeah? Well how many success stories have you heard? It's probably very few because it's the people who complain that are the loudest. I worked my arse off & I had a Traineeship (English Speaking Kindergarten) in my first 2 months. When that didn't work out (because of bureaucratic red tape) I found another full time job with another kindergarten. I also, as noted, worked for WWF as a facer for 3 months. I was offered work as a demolitions laborer but had to turn down as I was currently working.
As said before: you can apply, but getting it is something completely different.
And if you don't apply you DON'T have a chance.
That's why there are much more applicants than places and there is a rigid selection system.
I know how rigid the system is. Nothing worth having is easy.

This kid wants to be a Doctor. The world NEEDS more Doctors. It's hard work to become a Doctor.
his first line of approach to all questions seems to be "help me"
I can't see the problem in asking for help. I thought that was the spirit of these forums.

Well said! Your advice to the youngster was encouraging, I hope they take it and realise their ambitions. :-)
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