4 Olympic Gold Medals and 16 months in prison

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4 Olympic Gold Medals and 16 months in prison

Post by sinikettu » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:49 pm

This situation has been on the cards for some time.
Matti has had suspended prison sentences before, but this time he is going to jail.

http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Matti+ ... 5259580685

How did he manage to so piss up his life?
Was there nobody able to keep him out of the tabloids, no mentor?
Why not?
Did he not deserve some help when the price of fame was too much for him?


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4 Olympic Gold Medals and 16 months in prison

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Re: 4 Olympic Gold Medals and 16 months in prison

Post by otyikondo » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:43 pm

He's been to jail before. He got two years and change in 2004, and a further 4-month sentence that was commuted to community service in 2006.

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Re: 4 Olympic Gold Medals and 16 months in prison

Post by sinikettu » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:01 pm

otyikondo wrote:He's been to jail before. He got two years and change in 2004, and a further 4-month sentence that was commuted to community service in 2006.
I stand corrected I thought that 2 year sentence was suspended, but just checked and of course you are right.
It was reduced to one year but he went inside.
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Re: 4 Olympic Gold Medals and 16 months in prison

Post by sammy » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:11 pm

sinikettu wrote:How did he manage to so piss up his life?
Was there nobody able to keep him out of the tabloids, no mentor?
Why not?
Did he not deserve some help when the price of fame was too much for him?
Well... just because he was good in ski jumping does not mean he was incapable of wanting to be reckless or anything like that - don't get me wrong, I don't think he should carry all the blame himself but I just think it's equally unreasonable to try and see him as an "innocent victim" only. Yes, he probably was young and naive; yes, someone quite probably even told him not to piss up his life - but alas, as often is the case he probably did not want to listen in the first place... and you can't change people by force - why some people seem to want to choose the hard way... I just don't know. Elämä on laiffii...

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Re: 4 Olympic Gold Medals and 16 months in prison

Post by sinikettu » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:20 pm

Just found a quote attributed to him

"On kaksi osaa ihmisiä. Joku vetää huumeita, joku urheilee, joku vetää itsensä loppuun ja joku vaan nukkuu. Minä kuulun siihen porukkaan, joka nukkuu, urheilee, rakastelee ja hakkaa itseään ja voipi olla, että siinä joskus osuu toiseenkin ihmiseen."

"There are two parts of people. Some take drugs, some do sports, some rushes into burn-out and some just sleep. I'm one of those people who sleep, do sports, make love and beat themselves, and sometimes one may accidentally hit someone else, too."
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Re: 4 Olympic Gold Medals and 16 months in prison

Post by sammy » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:53 pm

One of the most bewildering Nykänen quotations in terms of fuzzy logic is this one...

"Tekemätöntä ei saa tekemättömäksi"

...could perhaps be translated as "what's not done can't be undone". Maybe this answers your original question by the way? For, intentional or not, there's wisdom of sorts in it :)

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Post by Upphew » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:57 pm

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Re: 4 Olympic Gold Medals and 16 months in prison

Post by FFCBOY » Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:57 pm

Not just Matti look at Gazza.

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Re: 4 Olympic Gold Medals and 16 months in prison

Post by AldenG » Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:14 pm

sammy wrote:One of the most bewildering Nykänen quotations in terms of fuzzy logic is this one...

"Tekemätöntä ei saa tekemättömäksi"

...could perhaps be translated as "what's not done can't be undone". Maybe this answers your original question by the way? For, intentional or not, there's wisdom of sorts in it :)
Was he claiming he had a reputation based on (or stood accused of doing) many things he actually hadn't done in the first place?

Seems a little sophisticated for Matti, doesn't it? Now if it were Yogi Berra who said that, we'd consider it both clever and profound.

But I can see someone saying "I can't undo something I never did in the first place." Or someone in a court trial saying "I can't apologize for something I didn't do to begin with," explaining his lack of repentance for a horrifying crime of which he claims to be innocent.
As he persisted, I was obliged to tootle him gently at first and then, seeing no improvement, to trumpet him vigorously with my horn.


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