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00 flour

Post by CH » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:06 am

I don't know if this is old news, but I hadn't noticed it before...

At least CM at IsoOmena in Espoo had Italian 00 flour. I bought the pizza flour, out of curiosity as I haven't tried 00 flour previously, and it really was very finely ground! They also had cake flour, but I didn't (yet) buy that.



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Re: 00 flour

Post by tuulen » Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:44 pm

Type 00 flour is perfect for Neapolitan pizza dough: http://italiancuisine.suite101.com/arti ... itan_pizza
the article wrote:Dough should ideally be made with an Italian typo 00 flour, like Caputo 00. The 00 designation describes the way that the flour is milled, to a more fine consistency than the average flour, which allows for higher hydration dough. Typo 00 flour also has a very high protein content, which creates more gluten in the dough, allowing it to stretch easily and well.

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Re: 00 flour

Post by Pursuivant » Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:58 pm

So thats what you make the pizza bottom you can flip to stick on the cieling with? :lol:
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Re: 00 flour

Post by carolinemaher » Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:55 pm

Hei Thanks for the info, I've looked for it but never seen that before in Helsinki.

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Re: 00 flour

Post by darrylfoster » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:42 pm

At least CM at IsoOmena in Espoo had Italian 00 flour. I bought the pizza flour, out of curiosity as I haven't tried 00 flour previously, and it really was very finely ground! They also had cake flour, but I didn't (yet) buy that.
Do u recall brand name? Was it really an Italian brand?

I looked at KCM Ruoholahti and they only had Sunnuntai/Myllyn Paras - no other brands for any kind of regular flour.

KCM IsoOmena - btw - has MUCH higher prices overall than KCM Rlhti or KCM Sello.

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(Is there any equivalent in Finnish flour nomenclature for 00?)

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Re: 00 flour

Post by Rosamunda » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:08 pm

darrylfoster wrote:
(Is there any equivalent in Finnish flour nomenclature for 00?)
No, but at a guess I would say that puolikarkea vehnäjauho is the closest as it is finely ground and has a high gluten content.

http://www.myllynparas.fi/portal/suomi/ ... ehnajauho/

http://www.dlc.fi/~marianna/gourmet/i_flours.htm#durum


This type of fine wheat flour is usually called semi-coarse wheat flour in Finland, where it is sold under the name "puolikarkea vehnäjauho". It is milled from the endosperm part of the wheat kernel. Fine wheat flour is especially suitable for making sweet or savoury yeast doughs used for baking breads, rolls or buns. The protein content of Finnish fine wheat flour is slightly higher than 13 %


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Re: 00 flour

Post by darrylfoster » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:31 pm

Puoli-karkea is certainly an anti-intuitive term for 'fine' - I for one would never have thunk it!

What in the world happened to the Finnish language folks with respect to the usual term 'hieno (fine) ?'

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Re: 00 flour

Post by CH » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:47 pm

darrylfoster wrote:Do u recall brand name? Was it really an Italian brand?
Yes, it was these two: Pizza flour, cake flour.

But if one CM has them (or at least had, I haven't checked it out since I originally posted about it), I'm sure you can request it from the others, too.

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Re: 00 flour

Post by darrylfoster » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:19 pm

But if one CM has them (or at least had, I haven't checked it out since I originally posted about it), I'm sure you can request it from the others, too.
OK - thanks.

But re KCM - they are all individually owned - the CM's do 'co-operate' but it is rather informal - they surely don't have the same prices! And not the same products.

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Re: 00 flour

Post by Upphew » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:34 pm

darrylfoster wrote:But re KCM - they are all individually owned - the CM's do 'co-operate' but it is rather informal - they surely don't have the same prices! And not the same products.
But they get their products from the same source: http://www.kesko.fi/en/
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Re: 00 flour

Post by darrylfoster » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:01 pm

darrylfoster wrote:
But re KCM - they are all individually owned - the CM's do 'co-operate' but it is rather informal - they surely don't have the same prices! And not the same products.

But they get their products from the same source: http://www.kesko.fi/en/
yes - the biggest part - but they are all independent - choose their own assortments - set own prices - and buy directly from many other suppliers - also sometimes a few of the CMs get together for independent (non-Kesko) purchases

actually - even the smallest K's are buying completely independently for some items.

K is a kind of glorified franchise system - a good place to look at some of the inside stuff is to study the court case that came up with the IsoJako (name?) KMart in Tammisto - much of all the laundary was hung out then.

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Re: 00 flour

Post by maxxfi » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:21 pm

darrylfoster wrote: a good place to look at some of the inside stuff is to study the court case that came up with the IsoJako (name?) KMart in Tammisto - much of all the laundary was hung out then.
Link, please :)
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Re: 00 flour

Post by darrylfoster » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:09 pm

i have no link - you'll have to scrounge around - but the sxxx hit the fan about 10 yrs ago (might be more - time flies) when Kesko and IsoJako got into a fight and all kinds of 'inside' stuff came out

as you may know the way Kesko operates seems to take some pages from the 'Omerta' syndrome


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