Qualified daycare workers harming children's development?

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Re: Qualified daycare workers harming children's development

Post by Mölkky-Fan » Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:22 am

I get the point they make, while they are not saying all staff should be degree educated they are saying that some places have shortages.

I would not be so confident of the day care if it had no professional day care staff. You need professional staff to notice development problems etc, to discuss with parents any issues, to cope with multilingual children, to manage problem children, to support in case of death, divorce, bullying and a raft of other things.

If you think all parents are somehow good at bringing up children, then you are only looking from a small cross section of society... I am often shocked at the way some children are treated.


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Post by irnbru » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:16 am

It's not a surprise when a degree educated nursery teacher can expect to take home approx (or less) €2000 a month gross. Not much incentive to study for that at a uni/poly if that's the most you can expect.

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Post by Pursuivant » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:42 am

Add to that the difficulty in getting "tenures" as in a "steady job"... contract-contract-contract
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Post by ajdias » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:17 am

Mölkky-Fan wrote:I would not be so confident of the day care if it had no professional day care staff. You need professional staff to notice development problems etc, to discuss with parents any issues, to cope with multilingual children, to manage problem children, to support in case of death, divorce, bullying and a raft of other things.
Wasn't there a recent case where the daycare staff used duct tape on children? :roll:

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Post by irnbru » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:21 pm

Pursuivant wrote:Add to that the difficulty in getting "tenures" as in a "steady job"... contract-contract-contract
Yep 6 month contracts can be typical with no knowledge it's getting renewed until the 5th month.

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Post by Mölkky-Fan » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:26 pm

ajdias wrote:
Mölkky-Fan wrote:I would not be so confident of the day care if it had no professional day care staff. You need professional staff to notice development problems etc, to discuss with parents any issues, to cope with multilingual children, to manage problem children, to support in case of death, divorce, bullying and a raft of other things.
Wasn't there a recent case where the daycare staff used duct tape on children? :roll:
Are you mentioning this as a positive or negative? I had not thought of using duct tape on my kids... but now you have got me thinking :lightbulb:
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Post by ajdias » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:54 pm

I see, the rolling ways got you confused. :D
There's nothing positive on having ppl like that running kindergardens.

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Post by EP » Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:32 pm

Upon first reading of the article it struck me that there appears more weight being put upon education of daycare staff than upon the actual person themselves.
But those people have to pass psychological tests before they can be accepted. Those tests last four days. That on top of theory exams.

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Post by Pursuivant » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:11 pm

EP wrote:But those people have to pass psychological tests before they can be accepted. Those tests last four days.
Tapdancin jebus on a pogo stick, they gave us an assault rifle and live ammo after 4 hours of tests asking if you wanted to be a florist...
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