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Re: Master's degree

Post by Dancing.Universe » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:43 pm

Pursuivant wrote:We know too much - we have your beggars here applying for asylum. We need to deal with your romany problem first, then you can come to take advantage of my tax money?
I can't do anything about it. It's not like I don't know and I'm gonna argue, gypsies are a problem everywhere including here. But gypsies from Romania are quite a lot aswell :)

About the loan thing - I dont need a loan to study in my country since its not SO expensive for me here I can go study in the best uni here and be quite ok.
Its been a dream for me to go study in Finland and no matter what you're gonna say about me trying to "get free lunch" I still know what the truth is and what my desires are.
I came to this forum because I wanted assistance on some matters I didn't know and I get blamed for trying to get free lunch and other stuff which are totally irrelevant. If there were taxes in Finland I'd still want to go there. But I just wouldnt be able to. Luulen ettei minun tarvitse selittää enempää. Kiitos miljoonasta kysymyksestä.



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Re: Master's degree

Post by Cod » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:40 pm

..so you want to come here because it's free and you have a dream. No?

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Re: Master's degree

Post by Dancing.Universe » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:56 pm

cow-heada wrote:..so you want to come here because it's free and you have a dream. No?
Because I have a dream and people I miss and because its partially free :)
Are you a lawyer? :mrgreen:

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Re: Master's degree

Post by diablogun » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:57 am

Pursuivant wrote:
Dancing.Universe wrote: Third of - you know very little of the economical state of my country.
We know too much - we have your beggars here applying for asylum. We need to deal with your romany problem first, then you can come to take advantage of my tax money?
It would seem the government wants international students, and can only attract them by having no or low tuition. The reality is that it is expensive to move to and live in Nordic countries, especially when there is a language to learn in the process. If Nordic countries want international students, they have to compete for them, and tuition in addition to the high cost of living is a tough sell. Students can always go to Britain, the US, Germany, etc., if tuition is too high. Sweden recently instituted very high fees, and they will have almost no non eu students as a result. The Swedish taxpayers will instead be paying for EU citizens at the full rate.

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Re: Master's degree

Post by Cod » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:57 am

Dancing.Universe wrote:Because I have a dream and people I miss and because its partially free
and after studying here, you'll return to Sofia - with no contacts in the industry, no clear understanding of the industry in your homeland, no peer support group and try to play catchup - with a debt ?

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Re: Master's degree

Post by sammy » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:11 am

Dancing.Universe wrote:Luulen ettei minun tarvitse selittää enempää. Kiitos miljoonasta kysymyksestä.
Hey, how well exactly do you know your Finnish? Would it be possible for you to apply to some other degree programme thant those provided in English? Finnish-language programmes charge no fees, whatever the level and the nationality of the student. Just a thought... you'd have much more to choose from.

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Re: Master's degree

Post by Dancing.Universe » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:16 am

cow-heada wrote:and after studying here, you'll return to Sofia - with no contacts in the industry, no clear understanding of the industry in your homeland, no peer support group and try to play catchup - with a debt
Doubtfully.
sammy wrote:Hey, how well exactly do you know your Finnish? Would it be possible for you to apply to some other degree programme thant those provided in English? Finnish-language programmes charge no fees, whatever the level and the nationality of the student. Just a thought... you'd have much more to choose from.
not good enough to choose a finnish programme but I still have this and another year until graduation so there's a minimal chance :D

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Re: Master's degree

Post by sammy » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:23 am

Dancing.Universe wrote:
sammy wrote:Hey, how well exactly do you know your Finnish? Would it be possible for you to apply to some other degree programme thant those provided in English? Finnish-language programmes charge no fees, whatever the level and the nationality of the student. Just a thought... you'd have much more to choose from.
not good enough to choose a finnish programme but I still have this and another year until graduation so there's a minimal chance :D
Well if I were you, I'd not let those Finnish studies go - if you really want to study here, it would probably be an asset for you in many ways. Much larger selection of studies to choose from, possibilities for finding a part-time job during your studies would be higher, etc etc. Relatively few "foreign" students have trodden that particular path (I mean studying Finnish for years before they'd start their higher education here). Of course it's not a guaranteed key to nirvana or anything like that, but still... worth considering, absolutely, if you ask me.

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Re: Master's degree

Post by Dancing.Universe » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:35 am

To be able to study in a language you have to have deeper knowlege. I've been studying English for 11 years. Finnish is much harder though..I may be able to speak and understand but how about learn economics in it :D
Still the possibility of master's degree remains :P

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Re: Master's degree

Post by Cod » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:26 pm

Dancing.Universe wrote:Doubtfully.
Great answer. Thank goodness we got rid of the apologetics in post #1. All the best.

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Re: Master's degree

Post by Dancing.Universe » Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:52 pm

Oh one more thing - if you dont want international students EFING change your politics and educational system and tah-dah - no one will step in your country.
Now when your politics is formed in a way which welcomes people from other EU (and not only) countries, you can't complain. Its your country - it's your choice.
So yes, its free and thats why many people decide to go study there. Live with it.
All the best.

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Re: Master's degree

Post by Pursuivant » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:07 pm

EU and the resiprocal agreements is one thing. The different exchange agreements is another thing. Giving education to 3rd world students been done since the1960's (back then they had to cras course in Finnish for a year). The regio al politics luring naive students to some former dairy college peddling international business degrees is one thing. And the ungrateful beggars living here on my tax money and having the audacity to complain about my country as thanks is another thing. Different things.

And I think Turkey can join the EU if we split it to EU and OU, with Bulgaria and Romania and Greece with Turkey as the Ottoman Union so theres a lesson for you all. :twisted:
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Something wicked this way comes."

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Re: Master's degree

Post by diablogun » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:30 pm

Pursuivant wrote:EU and the resiprocal agreements is one thing. The different exchange agreements is another thing. Giving education to 3rd world students been done since the1960's (back then they had to cras course in Finnish for a year). The regio al politics luring naive students to some former dairy college peddling international business degrees is one thing. And the ungrateful beggars living here on my tax money and having the audacity to complain about my country as thanks is another thing. Different things.

And I think Turkey can join the EU if we split it to EU and OU, with Bulgaria and Romania and Greece with Turkey as the Ottoman Union so theres a lesson for you all. :twisted:
LOL. I would suspect that most 3rd-world students cannot afford to live there and pay for everyday expenses for a prolonged period from their pockets. As you know, Finland is not cheap. They definitely will not be going there if the costs for attending go Sweden's route. If they made the amount 3-5 thousand Euros per year, they could get some money and still have some people interested.

I think Sweden is hilarious, because they pay for all EU students completely, yet want an American to foot 15 K USD for the same education. Oh, and you get to pay huge amounts for rent and not work while doing it (you can but no one will hire you)! What a bargain, where do I sign up?! I didn't know crack smoking was so prevalent in the Swedish educational establishment.

If Finland goes that route, it will have the same result.

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Re: Master's degree

Post by Dancing.Universe » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:36 pm

Pursuivant wrote:EU and the resiprocal agreements is one thing. The different exchange agreements is another thing. Giving education to 3rd world students been done since the1960's (back then they had to cras course in Finnish for a year). The regio al politics luring naive students to some former dairy college peddling international business degrees is one thing. And the ungrateful beggars living here on my tax money and having the audacity to complain about my country as thanks is another thing. Different things.

And I think Turkey can join the EU if we split it to EU and OU, with Bulgaria and Romania and Greece with Turkey as the Ottoman Union so theres a lesson for you all. :twisted:
Haha, lesson for us all. : ) Nice.

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Re: Master's degree

Post by Cod » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:01 pm

Dancing.Universe wrote:Oh one more thing - if you dont want international students EFING change your politics and educational system and tah-dah - no one will step in your country.
Now when your politics is formed in a way which welcomes people from other EU (and not only) countries, you can't complain. Its your country - it's your choice.
So yes, its free and thats why many people decide to go study there. Live with it.
All the best.
I think you've become a bit over sensitive. I'm not Finnish and I can't vote in this country. My concern was - dare I say it - for you. Having read your replies, I think that while you seem more intent on using your Finnish than developing a great start to your career - maybe with a general degree like economics, it really doesn't matter so much as something more which is more specific.

Which is why i finished with "All the best". I was being sincere.


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