Help! Schoolbooks in secondary school

[Nicoline]

Dear all,

Regarding my earlier post about schoolbooks in Finland I have a question about the books in secondary education.
Secondary school students are entitled to school health care and a free lunch everyday. However, they must buy their own books and materials. Does anybody know how much money is spend on these books (the amount of books and the average prices, regarding text- and workbooks)?
And pupils have to buy them at bookstores or are the books delievrd at the school? Or is there maybe a schoolbook distributer?

You realy would help me a lot! Thankssssss!!!!
You can contact me in nicoline.nagtzaam@ormit.nl

Kind regards, Nicoline

[Upphew]

Does anybody know how much money is spend on these books (the amount of books and the average prices, regarding text- and workbooks)?
And pupils have to buy them at bookstores or are the books delievrd at the school? Or is there maybe a schoolbook distributer?

http://www.suomalainen.com/sk/
opiskelu|lukio

suomalainen.com is online store of the brick and mortar kind of bookstore. I got my books from them or from Akateeminen kirjakauppa ( www.akateeminenkirjakauppa.fi ), but there weren't www back in the day... So I'd guess the online is getting more and more business and there are more services where you can buy and sell used books (put käytetyt lukiokirjat to google).

[Rosamunda]

So now we are talking about Upper Secondary (lukio) which is grades 10-11-12.

The budget for one year's worth of new books could easily reach >500euro. Yesterday I bought a Maths book for approx 30e but students doing "long" maths might need to buy 15-20 different math books during the 3 years in High School (IIRC there are 16 modules plus revision books and formula books etc)

In my son's school the school purchases all the books and then rents them to the students for 50e per year. If a student loses a book he has to buy a new one for the school. The students have to buy their own workbooks, dictionaries, revision books (optional) etc. Most books seem to be in the 25-35 euro price range, but I'm sure there are some that cost a lot more than that.

It is quite easy to buy and sell second-hand books.

[Upphew]

So now we are talking about Upper Secondary (lukio) which is grades 10-11-12.

Or 11-12-13-14.... gotta love the kymppiluokka and luokatonlukio

[Nicoline]

Thanks again all for the info!
It's quite expensive! In the Netherlands there is also a rental system, but the government pays for that as well. Schools get a budget and rent the books to pupils. This system is new: only since 2008 schoolbooks are free in the Netherlands, before you had to pay for every book yourself.

When schools in Finland buy al the books and rent these to the pupils: do you know from whom the schools buy the books? I mean: do schools buy schoolbooks from a bookstore, or from a distributer, or directly from a publisher?
In the Netherlands the system is that schools buy them from a distributer, who bundles all the books and delivers them to the schools, or to the pupils at home. It's also done through a rental system, but owner of the books is and stays the distributer, not the school. I'm just figuring out how it exactly works in Finland... (and in onther Scandinavian countries for that matter...)

Greetings! Nicoline

[Rosamunda]

In Upper Secondary school the students go and buy their schoolbooks from the book shops

https://www.akateeminenkirjakauppa.fi/w ... irjat.html

http://www.suomalainenkirjakauppa.fi/

Both those give 10% discount on schoolbooks if you have their loyalty card. It is very unusual for High Schools to buy books and rent them to the students. My sons' school is an exception... But, GUESSING I would say they bulk buy from the publisher.

[Rip]

When the pupils (their parents) need ot buy the books themselves, they often try to get buy/sell old ones for reuse. Publishers are very eager in making changes for new printings to make this harder to do.