From web designer to kiinteistöhuoltomies

soulfromhighplayces · Post by **soulfromhighplayces** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:26 am

Phew...I worked as a web site and graphic designer for three years in home country and ended up doing my job practice as a kiinteitöhuoltomies,real estate maintenance man...hmmmm..its more like from easy work to tough Job...The kinda hard work that lies in kiintettöhuolto is nothing compared to web designing..Kiinteitöhuolto is more like a labourer kinda jab..especially during the winter period,when you have to shovel and break ICE..phew!

My first day at job practice was like sleeping on broken rocks....The part i don't really like is recycling thrash..I almost gave up..but looking at the fact that...as a foreigner,I really should be thankful even doing my Job pratcice...You damn right if you think 10 thousand immigrants will cast lots to get the job i have today..however the question is---Am i doing the right thing switching lane from web designer to maintenance man if i happen to get the jab as a maintenance man even tough sometimes i feel disgusted recyling the thrash

? Hey that reminds me,who knows the salary of kiinteistöhuoltomies..some say its not more than 1500 euros,that will be crap thinking about the kinda labour that comes with the job..

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Tiwaz · Post by **Tiwaz** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:20 pm

Salary depends a great deal on region where you live, maintenance guy in HKI area might make more than one in Nowheremäki, but you won't be getting much.

Why so little? Because much of what you will be doing is manual labor with few required skills.

Skills required = money paid.

Of course, once you get into high enough position your skills no longer correlate with your salary but rather your salary increases correlate with your salary. But maintenance guy is at opposite end of scale.

soulfromhighplayces · Post by **soulfromhighplayces** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:57 pm

hey i gat skills in information technology...And there are skills in maintenance work like driving those heavy snow machines...and changing locks..and so many more...hmmmm so labourers shouldnt earn much cos according to u they don't have skills? So how much do they earn can you say? Or shoud i jus be looking for a web designing job?

lionel · Post by **lionel** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:48 pm

I would say be pleased yo finally have a real job and not some crappy job in an office. Even though the manual labourer/ kiinteitöhuoltomies/builder is not paid very much no one would miss half the office staff or web designers if they vanished tommorrow but how quick will people complain and notice when their rubbish isnt moved or their lights/doors/water not fixed. All these things are essential but unappreciated.

soulfromhighplayces · Post by **soulfromhighplayces** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:22 pm

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soulfromhighplayces wrote:Even though the manual labourer/ kiinteitöhuoltomies/builder is not paid very much no one would miss half the office staff or web designers if they vanished tommorrow but how quick will people complain and notice when their rubbish isnt moved or their lights/doors/water not fixed.

Word! That"s the est thing i have heard this year...sometimes i look at the Job like "Humanitarian services" and that makes me pleased ...Because God love those who care for other people..When i think about this, am so much pleased..i will end this by saying Oh lord thank you for giving me the chance to cater for other people.

Tiwaz wrote:Salary depends a great deal on region where you live, maintenance guy in HKI area might make more than one in Nowheremäki

Job practice is at Tapiola Keskus

soulfromhighplayces · Post by **soulfromhighplayces** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:23 pm

lionel wrote:I would say be pleased yo finally have a real job and not some crappy job in an office. Even though the manual labourer/ kiinteitöhuoltomies/builder is not paid very much no one would miss half the office staff or web designers if they vanished tommorrow but how quick will people complain and notice when their rubbish isnt moved or their lights/doors/water not fixed. All these things are essential but unappreciated.

EP · Post by EP » Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:13 pm

Oh lord thank you for giving me the chance to cater for other people.

How about saying "Oh lord thank you for giving me a job".

soulfromhighplayces · Post by **soulfromhighplayces** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:29 pm

When i get the Job..I will definately say....Oh almighty God thank you for giving me a good Job

AldenG · Post by **AldenG** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:10 pm

What do you mean by "job practice?" Is this something a school has arranged that you must complete before getting your degree in IT?

Or the job is trying you out for 3 months to see if they will hire you permanently?

soulfromhighplayces · Post by **soulfromhighplayces** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:32 pm

AldenG wrote:What do you mean by "job practice?" Is this something a school has arranged that you must complete before getting your degree in IT?

Or the job is trying you out for 3 months to see if they will hire you permanently?

Well am in a course organized by the unemployment office..You mis understood me..I am not in any IT school...
And i don't know if they are trying me out to see if they will hire me permanently..All i do know is,we are meant to go for Job practice two months before the end of the course...

Pursuivant · Post by **Pursuivant** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:17 pm

My father always told me: you need two jobs, one you can do with your hands and one you can do with education. That way you will never end up hungry.

Btw the kiinteistöhuolto job will improve your Finnish immensely. And if you get your plumbing, ventilation and electrical certs you start getting into good pay.

soulfromhighplayces · Post by **soulfromhighplayces** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:34 am

@pursuivat...True Talk...

Please tell me how i can get those certs? Am interested a great deal...

Tiwaz · Post by **Tiwaz** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:19 pm

soulfromhighplayces wrote:hey i gat skills in information technology...

Irrelevant for maintenance work.

And there are skills in maintenance work like driving those heavy snow machines...

Which does not require weeks of training.

and changing locks..

By locksmiths.

and so many more...hmmmm so labourers shouldnt earn much cos according to u they don't have skills?

Mainly it is question of how large is potential employee pool compared to how many are requires, as well as how time/resource/money consuming it is to train one to be relatively proficient in their duties.

Or shoud i jus be looking for a web designing job?

It is my understanding that it is not route to great success either. Lots of web designers out there... Maintenance guy might actually be better in long term.

As for certifications, I think they require visit to vocational school. Doing electrical stuff tends to require one to have studied to be electrician.

soulfromhighplayces · Post by **soulfromhighplayces** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:47 pm

Word! Nicely said...good Job...Tiwaz

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