I don't want to pay bloody tax

[Tiwaz]

roger_roger says he had an appointment, which to me means his was not an emergency case; you don't make appointments in an emergency.

Stupid_one thinks he had an appointment. He apparently, based on his message, did NOT go to correct place (terveyskeskus) where they handle appointments, but to emergency.

Roger''s appointment was for 12:00 and he gave up waiting at 15:30. Now that is simply arrogance. If a client of mine has an appointment at 12:00 and I haven't bothered to appear or send apologies and a decent explanation by 15:30 then I expect to have an ex-client.

Because it is a bloody EMERGENCY. Acuta handles ALL emergency cases in Tampere. They will take you in if you do not have your head hanging by the thread, but you WILL be shuffled down the line of "todo-things" every time real emergency comes up.

And with population of 250k, emergencies are not exactly rare. So if your issue is minor, you are on the bottom of the pile until emergencies are cleared.

Yet the medical profession think it is OK to keep people waiting, I suppose because (in their view) their time is more important than their patient's time. Unfortunately that is not limited to Finland. I have see the same in the UK and I suspect it is common practise elsewhere also. I sympathise with roger_roger for that reason, but I do wonder where he is from that he is used to a better level of service.
The other point roger-roger makes is also interesting. He was prescribed pain killers but pointed out that he wanted the doc to address the cause of his pain, not merely to relieve the symptoms. That is surely a reasonable request, but it seemed to cause problems to the doctor. Again I can understand roger being less than impressed with this level of service. As he points out we all can (and probably do) take pain killers before things get so bad that we seek medical advice, and we expect the Dr to go one better.[/quote]

instead of suggesting or appealing the hospitals for good and fast medical services you sound screaming at the patient and pointing finger to them asking why are you sick?

Because "patient" here is an imbecile who should figure out how to do things properly instead of thinking they are so important that their irrelevant knee ache qualifies them for immediate EMERGENCY treatment.

my concern was why name it emergency service when you have to wait for hours to get it ?

Because you are not a goddamn EMERGENCY! Is that somehow difficult concept for you? Emergency is if your kneecap is popped halfway out from your leg, not that your knee is hurting a bit.

why hospitals are reluctant to increase the facilities and medical staffs so they could give proper and prompt services to patients ?

They do. You are just idiot who was in wrong place. Where you should have gone is terveyskeskus.

knee ache may not kill me in one day but it is great hassle to attend hospitals everyday for one or other check-ups, specially when the knee is sore and you are limping and struggling to walk, even to go to bathroom...

It still is not an emergency, but inconvenience.

I see this some different way, one day visit is 58 euros, call the patient tomorrow for xray another charge, again call after 3 days again another charge... it sounds like MONEY PRINTING MACHINE to me... I might be wrong but I feel that way...

Which part of "private clinic" your thick head did not grasp? It is BUSINESS! They do it to get MONEY!
If you want to use private side, either have your insurances sorted out or become rich. They have no duty to provide trained (and more expensive)x-ray nurses 24/7. Or if they did, you could add zero behind your bill because it costs a lot.

And again, diagnosis is not art of waving a magic wand. They take their time because they have to sort out big pile of results, analyze them and based on that make a diagnosis.

I don't want that... but increasing the number of medical staffs may help us all...

Go to Terveyskeskus. Oh yes, and where (as has been pointed to you) this medical staff gets their money?
Hint, on public side it is called "taxes". The thing you do not want to pay, but demand to get emergency level treatment for minor injury.

why to take the blood samples only in the mornings ? it can be taken at any time, as the blood flowing through the body is same during day or night... It may take quiet long to get the result of it, but these kind of rules of taking blood samples only in the morning is laughable, and they say its already 14.00 so come tomorrow for the sample... he he after 14.00 chemicals doesn't react? there might be some mystery behind it, anyways for me as a layman in medical terms its hilarious....

Guess what... Loads of blood tests require you to have been without food or drink for last 12 hours. Because of this they are taken in the morning, because most people do not eat or drink during night. Making it least problematic to be fasting for 12 hours.

If you want someone to sit there just waiting for someone to come give blood sample, you have to pay salary to that person. On private side, it is cost moved to the bill to customers, on public it has to be covered by taxes.

center of universe is the topic of big philosophy... anyways, I really feel stupid to visit hospital+clinic in Finland... next time I'll directly head to pharmacy to buy pain killers, as the longest route via hospital also ends up in pharmacy having pain killers in your prescription... and my bloody Atlas Medical Insurance doesn't cover medical benefits below 100 euros

Because you did everything wrong. First you went to emergency, while you had none (terveyskeskus is correct place). Then you failed to inform them that you left (thus causing someone to run around calling for your name when they had time for non-emergencies). Then you went to private side.

If you had gone to Terveyskeskus, you would have been handled in proper order.
Once upon time as young student, I got ill. High fever and all that. Went to local terveyskeskus, got sent to bigger one where they took X-rays. The next day I got another set of x-rays in hospital and was thrust into hospital bed in short order.

What is our difference? I went through the proper channels. I had to wait here and there yeah, but then again I was no emergency either. (I had caught disase called Myyräkuume, mid-serious case and spent a week in hospital)

And for level of treatment and so forth, I paid peanuts. (and today some other student does the same with my tax money, and I do not feel even slightly bad about it)

[Tiwaz]

Well, now you know.

If you do not want to shovel up the big bucks, it's Terveyskeskus (which one is closest) for any minor issues. You might end up queuing up if you have appointment, and might also end up late even if you do, but lines are much shorter than at hospital.

Or get another health insurance. Though you usually have to pay yourself something like 100€/10% from expenses, whichever is bigger amount. And it might be per application, in which case you have to pile up the bills and then apply for compensation in one bulk load.