National History Day Reasearch on Finland in World War II

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Re: National History Day Reasearch on Finland in World War I

Post by abare » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:01 am

onkko wrote:
jahasjahas wrote:
abare wrote:I am wondering if there is any Finnish historian or some one who majored in Finnish history or is in any other way reliable (for bibliographical purposes)
onkko wrote:Well if you ask from me ill say that fking thief...
You should probably check this guy's credentials before quoting him.
My "credentials " for my opion is 1 dead, 2 wounded, 1 homecity burned, 1 home burned, 1 time of fleeing from home, 1 working for common good as underaged lotta, few fears from bombing and attacks and that was only from my granmas, whats your credentials?
Wow, that is amazing. Is there anyone from your family or some one you know that lived through the wars that I might be able to e-mail interview questions to for our project, if it is okay with them?



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Re: National History Day Reasearch on Finland in World War I

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Re: National History Day Reasearch on Finland in World War I

Post by pierrot » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:44 am

onkko wrote:
jahasjahas wrote:
abare wrote:I am wondering if there is any Finnish historian or some one who majored in Finnish history or is in any other way reliable (for bibliographical purposes)
onkko wrote:Well if you ask from me ill say that fking thief...
You should probably check this guy's credentials before quoting him.
My "credentials " for my opion is 1 dead, 2 wounded, 1 homecity burned, 1 home burned, 1 time of fleeing from home, 1 working for common good as underaged lotta, few fears from bombing and attacks and that was only from my granmas, whats your credentials?
That makes you a family member of a witness, not a historian or neutral "expert" on the field.
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Re: National History Day Reasearch on Finland in World War I

Post by jahasjahas » Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:33 am

onkko wrote:My "credentials " for my opion is 1 dead, 2 wounded, 1 homecity burned, 1 home burned, 1 time of fleeing from home, 1 working for common good as underaged lotta, few fears from bombing and attacks and that was only from my granmas, whats your credentials?
I didn't doubt your opinions, but abare was asking for a historian to answer his questions and you gave him an emotional rant. (Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I couldn't pass a chance to joke.)

All the veterans in my family (that I know of) survived the war, so I guess I lost that pissing contest.

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Re: National History Day Reasearch on Finland in World War I

Post by onkko » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:06 pm

abare wrote:Wow, that is amazing. Is there anyone from your family or some one you know that lived through the wars that I might be able to e-mail interview questions to for our project, if it is okay with them?
I cant think about anyone who uses email or such or speaks english, i assume you cant speak finnish :)
You can mail me and i can try to ask granma and maybe his brother.
Use email and/or pm buttons in right.
I dont promise anything and translating is huge job so even if i get interview i may dump raw audio file to you and you have to translate it :D
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Re: National History Day Reasearch on Finland in World War I

Post by onkko » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:07 pm

jahasjahas wrote:
onkko wrote:My "credentials " for my opion is 1 dead, 2 wounded, 1 homecity burned, 1 home burned, 1 time of fleeing from home, 1 working for common good as underaged lotta, few fears from bombing and attacks and that was only from my granmas, whats your credentials?
I didn't doubt your opinions, but abare was asking for a historian to answer his questions and you gave him an emotional rant. (Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I couldn't pass a chance to joke.)

All the veterans in my family (that I know of) survived the war, so I guess I lost that pissing contest.
What are historians? Bunch of people who study what happened and then give emotional rant according to their word view about what happened :twisted:
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Re: National History Day Reasearch on Finland in World War I

Post by Hpslm » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:43 pm

abare wrote:Wow, that is amazing. Is there anyone from your family or some one you know that lived through the wars that I might be able to e-mail interview questions to for our project, if it is okay with them?
You might not realise this but practically every Finn's (of the ones who have lived here longer than two generations) grandparents/greatgrandparents are somehow connected to the war. In Finnish language conversation an argument "It is so because my relatives were in the war" is on the level of "I breath therefore I am right". I.e. you're bound to need to defend your point with more than that.

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Re: National History Day Reasearch on Finland in World War I

Post by abare » Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:25 pm

Thanks everyone, we leave tomorrow for nationals.
The national award ceremony is broadcasted live via webcast on the History Channel's website, just in case anyone is interested, although its three hours long XD.
I'll post pictures of our exhibit after nationals and I can send our bibliography/thesis/process paper to anyone who is interested.
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Re: National History Day Reasearch on Finland in World War I

Post by skandagupta » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:28 pm

onkko wrote:
jahasjahas wrote:
onkko wrote:My "credentials " for my opion is 1 dead, 2 wounded, 1 homecity burned, 1 home burned, 1 time of fleeing from home, 1 working for common good as underaged lotta, few fears from bombing and attacks and that was only from my granmas, whats your credentials?
I didn't doubt your opinions, but abare was asking for a historian to answer his questions and you gave him an emotional rant. (Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I couldn't pass a chance to joke.)

All the veterans in my family (that I know of) survived the war, so I guess I lost that pissing contest.
What are historians? Bunch of people who study what happened and then give emotional rant according to their word view about what happened :twisted:
I rather resent this one.
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Re: National History Day Reasearch on Finland in World War I

Post by abare » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:10 pm

Thank you every one for your help!

At nationals I placed fourth out of 96 national qualifiers in my division with my exhibit, "Talvisota, Jatkosota, Lapin Sota: Failed Diplomacy in Finland. I also got to talk with the information officer at the Finnish embassy in Washington D.C. and was given a full tour, which was a really amazing experiance. Thank you so much for your help again, it was nice talking.

-Alex


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