1. what is 'pilvisempää' and 'viileämpää'? I have studied comparative such as, vanhempi, isompi, pienempi, but I did not see 'pilvismpää', and it looks has some similarity with comparitive, pilvismpi, then what are they? when can I use them?
2. And 'parhaimmillaan' and 'kauneimmillaan', what are these?
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1. "cloudier", "cooler", its comparative against "unknown" so there was in time unknown time with lesser clouds and now there is more clouds.weijie wrote:1. what is 'pilvisempää' and 'viileämpää'? I have studied comparative such as, vanhempi, isompi, pienempi, but I did not see 'pilvismpää', and it looks has some similarity with comparitive, pilvismpi, then what are they? when can I use them?
2. And 'parhaimmillaan' and 'kauneimmillaan', what are these?
2. "in his/her/it best (age/time)" "in her most beautiful (age/time)" (mens arent beautiful)
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You could look at them this way:weijie wrote:....
2. And 'parhaimmillaan' and 'kauneimmillaan', what are these?
parhain="best"
parhaimmilla="at best" ....superlative of "good" in the plural adessive case
parhaimmillaan="at one's best"....plural adessive with the third person possessive suffix..-an
kaunein="most beautiful"
kauneimmilla="at most beautiful" ....superlative of "beautiful" in the plural adessive case
kauneimmillaan="at one's most beautiful"....plural adessive with the third person possessive suffix..-an
....but I'm not sure why it has to be the plural form rather than the singular...??? Maybe someone else can answer this....
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Pilvisempää and viileämpää are simply the partitive singular forms of pilvisempi and viileämpi, nothing more complicated than that. 
The twisted evil joke in that statement is that the choice of partitive over nominative or genitive/accusative always seems to be the most bothersome choice for foreign speakers in the entire Finnish language.
So that's the grammatical explanation. Onkko already gave you the practical explanation and Rob took care of parhaimmillaan and kauneimmillaan. (Though it need not be "at one's best", it can just as well be "at its best," his/her best, etc.
The twisted evil joke in that statement is that the choice of partitive over nominative or genitive/accusative always seems to be the most bothersome choice for foreign speakers in the entire Finnish language.So that's the grammatical explanation. Onkko already gave you the practical explanation and Rob took care of parhaimmillaan and kauneimmillaan. (Though it need not be "at one's best", it can just as well be "at its best," his/her best, etc.
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Thank Rob! From what I have learned till now, I only know that 3rd person both singular and plural possesive suffix are -nsa, this is the first time i know -an from 'parhaimmillaan' is also 3rd person suffix, would you please show me more examples when and where should we usa -an as suffix?Rob A. wrote:
You could look at them this way:
parhain="best"
parhaimmilla="at best" ....superlative of "good" in the plural adessive case
parhaimmillaan="at one's best"....plural adessive with the third person possessive suffix..-an
kaunein="most beautiful"
kauneimmilla="at most beautiful" ....superlative of "beautiful" in the plural adessive case
kauneimmillaan="at one's most beautiful"....plural adessive with the third person possessive suffix..-an
....but I'm not sure why it has to be the plural form rather than the singular...??? Maybe someone else can answer this....
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See the bottom of this page (“3. Third person possessive suffix”).weijie wrote:From what I have learned till now, I only know that 3rd person both singular and plural possesive suffix are -nsa, this is the first time i know -an from 'parhaimmillaan' is also 3rd person suffix, would you please show me more examples when and where should we usa -an as suffix?
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