Do you need a native contact person in Finland

FinSaarki · Post by **FinSaarki** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:36 pm

I'm offering office assistant/virtual assistant/ customer service/ support, product sourcing, marketing etc. services in finnish and english.I can represent you in Finland. I'm 40-years old business minded finnish male with strong english, IT, communication and customer service skills. All offers taken into account. Please contact by email ksmar@yahoo.com

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onkko · Post by **onkko** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:40 pm

FinSaarki wrote:I'm offering office assistant/virtual assistant/ customer service/ support, product sourcing, marketing etc. services in finnish and english.I can represent you in Finland. I'm 40-years old business minded finnish male with strong english, IT, communication and customer service skills. All offers taken into account. Please contact by email ksmar@yahoo.com

Yahoo, your email is yahoo and name is ksmar

You arent finnish.

onkko · Post by **onkko** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:41 pm

Tottakai jos oot suomalaine ni osannet kirjottaa suomeks, ei luulis olevan hankalaa

mrjimsfc · Post by **mrjimsfc** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:59 pm

onkko wrote:Yahoo, your email is yahoo and name is ksmar You arent finnish.

The omission of articles in your writing leads me to believe that your capabilities in the use of the English language aren't that great either.

Sander15 · Post by **Sander15** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:48 pm

Onkko is probably a 13 year old with nothing better to do with his time.

interleukin · Post by **interleukin** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:02 pm

Onkko is probably a 13 year old with nothing better to do with his time.

That may well be so, but that has nothing to do with the obvious shadiness of the OP, does it?

Rick1 · Post by **Rick1** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:58 am

Wonder how that virtual assistant will work; you pay him but he is never there

A little bit like those people in Parlament; 3 months holiday and the rest sick or visiting abroad. Well it is only a small 6000 a month plus benefits.

onkko · Post by **onkko** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:45 pm

mrjimsfc wrote:
onkko wrote:Yahoo, your email is yahoo and name is ksmar You arent finnish.
The omission of articles in your writing leads me to believe that your capabilities in the use of the English language aren't that great either.

I have never claimed that my english skills are even medicore, OP claimed to be native.

silk · Post by **silk** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:05 pm

onkko wrote: I have never claimed that my english skills are even medicore

Onkko, your English skills are not bad, considering you have pretty much taught yourself, as you have said before. Also, your English has gotten better over time. (I hope this didn't sound too patronizing

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AldenG · Post by **AldenG** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:48 pm

Although mrjimsrc quoted onkko, I'm not sure whether his comment was ultimately about onkko or the OP.

I first read it as adding on to onkko's comment about the OP's Finnish to say the OP's English also had certain deficiencies -- not as a criticism of onkko, with whom mrjimsfc often seems to be in agreement.

Personally I do not care how "good" the OP's or anyone else's English is as long as it suffices to communicate. I have certainly well-above-average Finnish for a foreigner, but while I constantly make the effort to say and write things correctly (unlike some English speakers I've known to blithely butcher their way through utterances nominally made in "Finnish"), I'm not that concerned at any given moment about my errors in any given communication because I know that I make myself well understood and I constantly improve. (And on occasion I get a few things right that unsophisticated native speakers sometimes don't.) I call my Finnish "flowing easily" but not fluent. My standard for "fluent" is the English of a very small handful of Finns in FF about whom you just wouldn't know they weren't native writers of it.

So I know three things: (1) regarding English as a second language, I'm in a position to help but not to throw stones; (2) preoccupation with error is one of the biggest inhibitors to weeding it out, because FIRST you must be using the language liberally before you will improve in it; (3) policing others' (native or not) use of one's native language is just so "meta" and missing the point of life and of language. It can be an attempt to set oneself apart when there really isn't anything else that could possibly do so.

AldenG · Post by **AldenG** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:53 pm

Anybody who actually puts themselves out there to speak English, more concerned with saying something than with saying it perfectly, gets big points in my world. Too many people won't try it because they don't want to be seen making mistakes. I suppose one could blame the school system for that.

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