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Post by loicsans » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:09 pm

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Re: Toiminimi and VAT

Post by Upphew » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:39 pm

loicsans wrote:I have been living in Finland for a few months only, I have a full time job at the moment, but have been offered an other job which would require me to established myself as Toiminimi.
So not a job. Tmi is a sole trader, a form of company.
loicsans wrote:At the moment I am not really sure how the taxation works, I need to find out if it would be beneficial for me salary wise (toiminimi vs my current position) as I have a family to feed.
The job offer is for a company based in Netherlands. I would invoice this company every months at around 7000 euros ( at the moment I have a 5000 euros/months salary roughly 3200 net in finland).
7k+ vat or is that vat included? If that is vat included, I'd say forget it.
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loicsans wrote:I wanted to find out if I have to pay the Finnish VAT on this amount as I cannot charge the company based in Holland for Finnish VAT ?
Also, how much it would work out to be per months roughly when you take out all the necessary taxes etc and the minimum pension.
If the company selling the service is in Finland then you pay Finnish taxes, including vat: "Palvelun myynti verotetaan Suomessa, jos se luovutetaan täällä sijaitsevasta kiinteästä toimipaikasta. Jos palvelua ei luovuteta Suomessa tai ulkomailla sijaitsevasta kiinteästä toimipaikasta, se verotetaan Suomessa, jos myyjän kotipaikka on täällä."
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Re: Toiminimi and VAT

Post by loicsans » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:48 pm

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Re: Toiminimi and VAT

Post by Tiwaz » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:26 pm

loicsans wrote:Thanks for your reply,
The company I would be working for and invoicing every months is based in Holland.
I would be invoicing 7000 euros per months, I believe this is including VAT.
I understand I would have to pay various taxes in Finland, however my question was related only to VAT.
Do I have to pay Finnish VAT on those 7000 euros knowing that the service is provided to a company based in Holland.
It was answered. If your business operates from Finland, destination of service is irrelevant and you pay same way as you would if it was provided to Finland.

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Re: Toiminimi and VAT

Post by Upphew » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:36 pm

loicsans wrote:Thanks for your reply,
The company I would be working for and invoicing every months is based in Holland.
I would be invoicing 7000 euros per months, I believe this is including VAT.
I understand I would have to pay various taxes in Finland, however my question was related only to VAT.
Do I have to pay Finnish VAT on those 7000 euros knowing that the service is provided to a company based in Holland.
My bad, in b2b it is the buyer that matters.
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Re: Toiminimi and VAT

Post by loicsans » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:45 pm

Thanks, so you mean that theoretically I should not have to pay Vero 23% of 7000€ ?

Upphew wrote:
loicsans wrote:Thanks for your reply,
The company I would be working for and invoicing every months is based in Holland.
I would be invoicing 7000 euros per months, I believe this is including VAT.
I understand I would have to pay various taxes in Finland, however my question was related only to VAT.
Do I have to pay Finnish VAT on those 7000 euros knowing that the service is provided to a company based in Holland.
My bad, in b2b it is the buyer that matters.

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Re: Toiminimi and VAT

Post by Upphew » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:59 pm

loicsans wrote:Thanks, so you mean that theoretically I should not have to pay Vero 23% of 7000€ ?
Yup. But better ask from vero/accountant/etc.
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