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Post by Alejandro21 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:16 am

In Finnish, I've noticed that there are some verbs that are spoken differently in informal situations, such as "Haluu" instead of another form of "haluta". Non of the websites that I normally go to explain the meaning of words like this. What is the literal translation of it, as in the song "Haluu Sitä Miestä"? Are their words in Finnish that are similar to this in the sense that they have shortened forms?

Also, How common is it in spoken Finnish for "se" so be used as a definite article like "the" in English, and "yks" so be used as an indefinite article, like "a" and "an" in English?



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Re: Shortened Words

Post by jahasjahas » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:28 am

Alejandro21 wrote:In Finnish, I've noticed that there are some verbs that are spoken differently in informal situations, such as "Haluu" instead of another form of "haluta". Non of the websites that I normally go to explain the meaning of words like this. What is the literal translation of it, as in the song "Haluu Sitä Miestä"?
"Haluu" is the spoken language form of either haluaa ("he/she/it wants") or halua (imperative, "want!"). In that song it means the latter ("if you want that man, hug that man... if you want that man, want that man..." :roll:)
Are their words in Finnish that are similar to this in the sense that they have shortened forms?
Short answer: yes.

There's a book called Kato hei! - Puhekielen alkeet by Maarit Berg and Leena Silfverberg which describes the spoken language in the Helsinki area. (Which in practice can be seen as the "general" spoken language in Finland.) Not the slang, but how the forms are shortened and how sentences are structured, etc. Lots of pretty authentic-sounding dialog. It's meant for language learners but written in Finnish, so whether it's useful for you depends on your skill level.
Also, How common is it in spoken Finnish for "se" so be used as a definite article like "the" in English, and "yks" so be used as an indefinite article, like "a" and "an" in English?
It can happen, but is by no means necessary.

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Post by kalmisto » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:18 pm

Also, How common is it in spoken Finnish for "se" so be used as a definite article like "the" in English, and "yks" so be used as an indefinite article, like "a" and "an" in English?
It is quite common.

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Post by Pursuivant » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:35 pm

Tä? Mitää lyhetä kele!
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Re: Shortened Words

Post by Alejandro21 » Wed May 02, 2012 5:47 am

jahasjahas wrote:
Alejandro21 wrote:In Finnish, I've noticed that there are some verbs that are spoken differently in informal situations, such as "Haluu" instead of another form of "haluta". Non of the websites that I normally go to explain the meaning of words like this. What is the literal translation of it, as in the song "Haluu Sitä Miestä"?
"Haluu" is the spoken language form of either haluaa ("he/she/it wants") or halua (imperative, "want!"). In that song it means the latter ("if you want that man, hug that man... if you want that man, want that man..." :roll:)
Are their words in Finnish that are similar to this in the sense that they have shortened forms?
Short answer: yes.

There's a book called Kato hei! - Puhekielen alkeet by Maarit Berg and Leena Silfverberg which describes the spoken language in the Helsinki area. (Which in practice can be seen as the "general" spoken language in Finland.) Not the slang, but how the forms are shortened and how sentences are structured, etc. Lots of pretty authentic-sounding dialog. It's meant for language learners but written in Finnish, so whether it's useful for you depends on your skill level.
Also, How common is it in spoken Finnish for "se" so be used as a definite article like "the" in English, and "yks" so be used as an indefinite article, like "a" and "an" in English?
It can happen, but is by no means necessary.
Ohh I see, I'll look into that book. Thanks!


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