my residence permit is in process can i apply tourest visa f

[navi]

guys have register my finger print at Finland embassy new Delhi.. now just waiting migri,s next step ...

[navi]

hello everybody ,, as you know my application is in process i filled my application in February under joint custody baby. we are not married and according to migri family ties bulletins 3 august, my application taking time ...
so my son,s mother i mean my partner decide to come India for me while migri not decide about my visa .. she have finish citizen and she is living Finland at rental house under social service so my question is if she comes India then she need to leave house to give back social service, she is coming here in India for 1 year with my 1 year old son.. so if she leave the house, is not effect on my case? because when we applied application together then she filled his address as her house in Finland.. if she come here in India,, Is migri can objection my case? and is she need to inform to migri that she is going for mother holidays in India ??

[Rip]

so if she leave the house, is not effect on my case?

I would want to have a direct confirmation about that from Migri, because I certainly see possibility the application could be rejected if the local family member seems to move out from Finland for an extended period.

[rinso]

Leaving the country while being on financial aid is opening a whole can of worms.
- if you have money to travel to India, you don't need financial help.
- social services is not going to pay the rent while she is away.
- she being out of the country will certainly harm your RP application.

That being said, it is probably the best move to make. If she lives with you for a year in India, your next application will probably be granted.
And if you decide to go on with it, put your present application on halt. You avoid a rejection and a new fee for the next time.

[rinso]

oops

[navi]

OK i am agree with you but her mother also living in Finland and can she put her mothers address for temporary period in migri.. when she planing to coming here in India ..
actually i don't want close my application because its near the decision result like 4 months more , so and she is coming here because ,,i never saw my son and we are far from each other from last like two year .. when she will come India ,i will marry with her she is planing to coming in India next month .. if i will marry with her and i will putt marriage certificate document in migri can this help for my case on decision.. she is coming here for knowing that if my visa will granted then we will together move in Finland if no then we have choice to living together here in India and mone thing more if i rejected visa then can i apply for next time or its created problems for me..

[rinso]

can she put her mothers address for temporary period in migri

It could be considered fraud. And when you have one bad mark, everything is going to be 10 times more difficult.

if i will marry with her and i will putt marriage certificate document in migri can this help for my case on decision

It will look like a desperate action which requires to look into. Delays, delays, delays.

if i rejected visa then can i apply for next time or its created problems for me..

A rejection means that the next time you start with a negative payload. You have to do much more to convince Migri.
If the situation for your new application has not changed they probably will reject the new application too.
Remember Migri is not there to help you. It's their job to be very critical about fake applications.

[rinso]

i filled my application in February under joint custody baby. we are not married
. she have finish citizen and she is living Finland at rental house under social service

So you're officially the father and she is getting a hand out from Kela.
That means you have to start paying child support and her Kela hand out will be reduced by the same amount.
Trying to move to Finland and (since you have no job) also ask for money from Kela makes your application suspicious.

[navi]

thanx rinso please help me for right decision if i pause my application what i need to say for migri recently my contact with migri through the mail i was ask few days ago for how much time taking more migri said they cant say proper but its taking several months according to 3 august post on migri ... so i i dont know how much taking time more and my result can positive and negative and my son.s mother want come India for me .. i am upset so help me is i need to stop my application or my wife to need wait still in Finland.. if i shut down my application in migri then next time i need to fill embassy fee ?

[Pursuivant]

if i shut down my application in migri then next time i need to fill embassy fee ?

Be glad they won't charge you extra for wasting their time again.

[rinso]

i am upset so help me is i need to stop my application

Phone the embassy and tell them your wife/partner is coming to India to live with you for a year.
You want to pause the application (do not say you want to stop it).
They tell you what to do further.

[navi]

hi friends my decision came in October 2012 my visa refused by migri
they said the finish emigration service has not granted the application a residence permit on the grounds of family ties because
the applicant is not a family member of a sponsor residing in Finland as defined in section 37 of the aliens act
the applicant does not have secure means of support
considering all the presented applications on the mater the requirement of the aliens act for granting a residence permit are not met ...

i know we was put appeal against decision because we have joint custody baby and i read law section 37 but my wife with me in India

my wife and my son is there in India with me .. she was here in august 2012 for 6 months holiday..
so we finally thought about register marriage ..
And in this November we register our marriage in court ..

so we are thinking about apply again in finland embassy new delhi

please tell me is this correct .. we need apply again or need to appeal against decision ..

[Pursuivant]

Have you come rich all of a sudden? Or are you still without means of support?

[rinso]

I see no use in giving you advice. You ignore everything and go on making mistakes.

Your application was denied for obvious good reasons. An appeal is a waste of time and money.

my wife and my son is there in India with me

So you cannot start an appeal or new application as long as the live over there.

my visa refused by migri

So the next application will be scrutinized and will take a looooong time.

If you have a job in India, the best thing to do is let your wife stay with you permanently.
Coming to Finland will mean hardship for the three of you ending in divorce and you moving back to India.
(you probably don't believe me, but there are plenty of examples of this scenario on this forum)

[rinso]

While rinso has a good point. I think an appeal will be the way to go, now that something new has come up which influences the original decision.

The court of appeal looks if Migri made the right decision based on the available information. If you add new information the court can order Migri to do the application process again.
It is highly unlikely that they (court of appeal) will reverse the decision. Based on the situation during the application, Migri made no mistake. (remember they married after the rejection)
The time for an appeal is almost at an end so the present situation will be the basis for a new consideration. Since Ms Navi now lives in India, a new rejection is almost a certainty.