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[umairfinland]

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[rinso]

It seems to me (and probably also to the authorities) that you want to get your spouse into the country on a visitors visa and then apply for a residence permit.
If there is an indication that you lie in your visa application, it can be denied.

If your spouse intends to return to your home country, you can appeal and supply prove of her intentions (job/own business or so). Appealing without arguments, just because you don't like the decision often is not very successful.
I think best thing to do is apply for a residence permit.

Whatever you do, it will take a long time. And since you already have a refusal under your belt every application/appeal will end up on the difficult cases pile.

and talked to good lawyer in Netherlands

Since you're in Finland and your spouse is not in the Netherlands, you are probably not entitled to subsidized legal aid there.
In that case lawyers will advice you to go ahead (and use there service) because they can send a large bill.

[umairfinland]

Rinso:

Thank you very much for your useful advice, yes surely it seems to rather rest my case. Thanks

[cors187]

In the same call they indicated since applicant is going to visit spouse in Finland, rather a residence permit shoudl be applied for.

Did your spouse ask to visit longer than 90days in finland?

[cors187]

After migri messing me about at the start of the year(as of jan 1st 2012 , migri withdrew the spouse applications for foreign workers already in Finland and spouse outside of Finland OLE_pk1 & OLE_ph1), in anycase i was not aware of the change until i came into Finland and tried to submit the application at the police.
In due coarse we applied for the guest visa for my wife and the migri offered the standard 90day visa but they made it a multi entry which was valid until the date of which this current years working contract ended.
So basically migri gave my wife 7+ months of entry time to finland , but still giving her the standard 90days total visit time within that period.

[umairfinland]

My spouse just asked for three weeks visit visa (90 Days) i think they still give 3 months visa. In our case we just asked 3 weeks visa but it has been denied.

[cors187]

My advice is to look over the evidence of your sponsorship and add greater detail showing-effective money spending power, secured living premises.
I would not let this application slide away knowing you have a refusal ,even though it could be to late.

[Pursuivant]

evidence of your sponsorship and add greater detail showing-effective money spending power, secured living premises.

For a residence permit that is. Visa is for visiting...

Visitor comes-says hello - and LEAVES. Goodbye, see you next year. Visa.
Residence permit comes and STAYS, lives in the premises, Residence Permit.

Try to get this difference clear and you will get much more joy out of your applications.

[umairfinland]

Thanks every1 for your reply, i dont know what to do since they still have the applican't passport with them and have not yet returned it along with the refusal letter. Can we write an appeal email/letter?

[cors187]

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The op wants his spouse to visit so he asked for a guest visa, i dont see a problem in that ,first visit and see if this will not be such a depressing place which offers nothing for you, for me its money.Without the money i go.
Maybe the OP spouse has a temp residence in his country and that a temp res in Finland affect a lot of different things,maybe, maybe not as the OP is a bit light on info.

In our case we just asked 3 weeks visa but it has been denied.

Infact maybe the OP and his spouse know exactly what they want better than anyone!

[cors187]

Thanks every1 for your reply, i dont know what to do since they still have the applican't passport with them and have not yet returned it along with the refusal letter. Can we write an appeal email/letter?

Seriously ,look over/analyze and find a way to increase your sponsorship qualifications,ring immediately ask for the email and customer number for your application and apologize for not submitting the full details needed for a successful visisumi.Your not the only one.

[cors187]

@OP -Netherlands is schengen EU territory ,can i ask where your spouse is a resident?

[Pursuivant]

Seriously ,look over/analyze and find a way to increase your sponsorship qualifications,ring immediately ask for the email and customer number for your application and apologize for not submitting the full details needed for a successful visisumi.Your not the only one.

Are you thick or something? He doesn't need to show any sponsorship, she needs to show proof she is going to return "home". Grounds for refusal - "we think you are not planning a tourist visit, rather than a longer stay".

[cors187]

Seriously ,look over/analyze and find a way to increase your sponsorship qualifications,ring immediately ask for the email and customer number for your application and apologize for not submitting the full details needed for a successful visisumi.Your not the only one.

What kind of advice is that?!!! and also call and apologize!!!! stop giving out stupid advice. The OP's intention is to bring his spouse to live not visit. The Dutch embassy merely is directing him to filling out the correct application for his situation (which is a residence permit application), he's just not willing to do it because he doesn't want to wait a long time.

Yep, when things go wrong the best way to continue down the road you choose is to re evaluate,correct the details and apologize for not showing enough info.Its the best way and will always be the best way!Its good advice in any situation going into any door.

If i go by the details i see he mentioned they wanted only 3 weeks entry, also mentioning he thought that migri would give 3 months entry.
I believe non working spousal residence permits dont take that long anyway.

[cors187]

Seriously ,look over/analyze and find a way to increase your sponsorship qualifications,ring immediately ask for the email and customer number for your application and apologize for not submitting the full details needed for a successful visisumi.Your not the only one.

Are you thick or something? He doesn't need to show any sponsorship, she needs to show proof she is going to return "home". Grounds for refusal - "we think you are not planning a tourist visit, rather than a longer stay".

Yes you do ,if a person requires a visa to enter,then they must show some form of reason why?, in this case she is coming because of him, and he would do better if he proved some fundamental details that make country hopping a sheer breeze.Its never about the minimum evidence , its about providing the maximum evidence so your applications or whatever you choose to do is successful.Your the thick one or your a drunkard or a hypocrite.
If the resident can show they have funds and a place to live in any application then what other possible reason is there for refusal of the intended guest, if the guest visa was filled out correctly?
What they presume shes going to stay longer because?
Some of you Fins have your head up your backside.