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Re: my residence permit is in process can i apply tourest vi
Well, nothing stops them from filing a new application now that family Navi plans on moving to Finland, though the time living is India hasn't been that long.
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Re: my residence permit is in process can i apply tourest vi
I dont agree with u rinso.!! sounds so arogant !
Of course he can choose to live in Finland or India or anywhere.
His wife is Finn and they have boy. So if he wants to move to Finland, it is their right ! No one cant stop them. Except migri.
Also if their marriage is a real, even migri cant stop them to move here !
Of course he can choose to live in Finland or India or anywhere.
His wife is Finn and they have boy. So if he wants to move to Finland, it is their right ! No one cant stop them. Except migri.
Also if their marriage is a real, even migri cant stop them to move here !
Re: my residence permit is in process can i apply tourest vi
In your case because your status in application not married yet, just cohabite , its written in immigration law, that you must have secure income to support your self and family later when you move here. Because cohabite isnot consider as family member yet except with special conditions. And you apply base on family tie. So its very clear why the decision is negative.
But when you already married, the income is not needed for Finnish citizen spouse application.
If you already married, its mean there is a new proof that you have. You can appeal the case or submit a new application. Its you and your wife to decide it. Both are take a long time. If you appeal the case, for administrative court it takes about 6 to 12 months.
But if for new application, for Finnish citizenship average processing about 4 to 6 months. And maximum processing is 9 months, must have the result for application base on family tie.
My opinion the cost for appealing more expensive compared to submitting a new application. Appealing cost its depend on the lawyer price charge, average per hour about 150 to 200 e + alv, some lawyer charge the case base on a whole package until finish with some amount. You just need to ask them what they will offer to you.
And for new application about less than 400 e. I forgot a real number for this. Just check in migri page.
And for your case its wasting money to appeal it. Because its very clear written in Immigration law. Just recheck migri page.
Appealing you can do if you have some facts or arguments or proofs, there is something mistake, or missing proofs which is you can use to complete the arguments so you can show if the decision that migri made was wrong or too weak. And you can discuss it with your lawyer. And find out which points that you cant accept because its not suitable with the facts that you have. And the court will be media between you and migri. And will decide who is that correct. Because sometime migri made some mistakes in their decision, as procedure or because something else. One have experience got negative, because the migri didnt read all the application. when they read, the applicants met from internet, they just put negative. Its good for applicant to read carefully what migri said for reasons in refused your application. If u see you have strong proofs,facts and there is mistake or weak then do appealing. But if your facts are too weak, better not. Dont waste your time and money for something where at the end will be negative. Better you use your time that almost one year to do something else.
If you decided to get marry, and join life together for 6 months during waiting for decision and have boy
IMy opinion, for your new application , will be no reason for migri to refuse it. That proof is quite strong enough to show that you are the spouse of Finn citizen now and already married legally.
But sometime we can see the reasons of refused RP , it seems like too cliche or stereotype, it sounds like out of the facts and logic. Especially when you meet your spouse through internet and just met a couples time, even though you have secure income to support your life, married legally....still they refused and making some reason and trying to use a weakness that you wrote in your application with the end doesnt related with your case at all, especially for applicants from the third countries. Whatever you are super serious , super a real marriage, very legally with many stamps at your certificate marriage, proofs some number money in your bank account statement, have apartment to live, have something to do in life, for example work or business. The applicant still can get a negative result. There is another points or factors that I cant say at here. And you know what I mean behind that decision.......if u smart enough to figure out ....
. If you are in this sitaution, you must do appeal. Because it already bad treating or unfair treating that you got. You have very strong enough to fight.
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But when you already married, the income is not needed for Finnish citizen spouse application.
If you already married, its mean there is a new proof that you have. You can appeal the case or submit a new application. Its you and your wife to decide it. Both are take a long time. If you appeal the case, for administrative court it takes about 6 to 12 months.
But if for new application, for Finnish citizenship average processing about 4 to 6 months. And maximum processing is 9 months, must have the result for application base on family tie.
My opinion the cost for appealing more expensive compared to submitting a new application. Appealing cost its depend on the lawyer price charge, average per hour about 150 to 200 e + alv, some lawyer charge the case base on a whole package until finish with some amount. You just need to ask them what they will offer to you.
And for new application about less than 400 e. I forgot a real number for this. Just check in migri page.
And for your case its wasting money to appeal it. Because its very clear written in Immigration law. Just recheck migri page.
Appealing you can do if you have some facts or arguments or proofs, there is something mistake, or missing proofs which is you can use to complete the arguments so you can show if the decision that migri made was wrong or too weak. And you can discuss it with your lawyer. And find out which points that you cant accept because its not suitable with the facts that you have. And the court will be media between you and migri. And will decide who is that correct. Because sometime migri made some mistakes in their decision, as procedure or because something else. One have experience got negative, because the migri didnt read all the application. when they read, the applicants met from internet, they just put negative. Its good for applicant to read carefully what migri said for reasons in refused your application. If u see you have strong proofs,facts and there is mistake or weak then do appealing. But if your facts are too weak, better not. Dont waste your time and money for something where at the end will be negative. Better you use your time that almost one year to do something else.
If you decided to get marry, and join life together for 6 months during waiting for decision and have boy
IMy opinion, for your new application , will be no reason for migri to refuse it. That proof is quite strong enough to show that you are the spouse of Finn citizen now and already married legally.
But sometime we can see the reasons of refused RP , it seems like too cliche or stereotype, it sounds like out of the facts and logic. Especially when you meet your spouse through internet and just met a couples time, even though you have secure income to support your life, married legally....still they refused and making some reason and trying to use a weakness that you wrote in your application with the end doesnt related with your case at all, especially for applicants from the third countries. Whatever you are super serious , super a real marriage, very legally with many stamps at your certificate marriage, proofs some number money in your bank account statement, have apartment to live, have something to do in life, for example work or business. The applicant still can get a negative result. There is another points or factors that I cant say at here. And you know what I mean behind that decision.......if u smart enough to figure out ....
. If you are in this sitaution, you must do appeal. Because it already bad treating or unfair treating that you got. You have very strong enough to fight. [/quote][/quote][/quote]
Re: my residence permit is in process can i apply tourest vi
A residence permit for Finland is more a favor than a right. There are many factors that can cancel this "right".Rara wrote: Of course he can choose to live in Finland or India or anywhere.
His wife is Finn and they have boy. So if he wants to move to Finland, it is their right !
Which they did.No one cant stop them. Except migri.
With a refusal under his belt, a history of avoiding answering questions in the application and a marriage right after the refusal it is not a done deal.Also if their marriage is a real, even migri cant stop them to move here !
He will have to convince Migri that this time the application is real.
If he had followed advice, halted his application in spring, applied for a tourist visa, married and then reapplied with the new information, he would have had a much easier situation.
Re: my residence permit is in process can i apply tourest vi
So on top of reading skills they should be mind readers to know when people write unrelated things to application... no wonder the processing times are so long.Rara wrote:making some reason and trying to use a weakness that you wrote in your application with the end doesnt related with your case at all
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Re: my residence permit is in process can i apply tourest vi
Ouch!Rara wrote:If you already married, its mean there is a new proof that you have. You can appeal the case or submit a new application. Its you and your wife to decide it. Both are take a long time. If you appeal the case, for administrative court it takes about 6 to 12 months.
But if for new application, for Finnish citizenship average processing about 4 to 6 months. And maximum processing is 9 months, must have the result for application base on family tie.
It hurts that you don't even seem to know the difference between a residence permit and citizenship.
Re: my residence permit is in process can i apply tourest vi
*facepalm*
Having baby in this situation is just wrong, logically speaking. What the hell both of you were thinking. Have you heard of a word widely know as "planning"?
As you never visited Finland let alone living here so obviously this has raised eyebrows in immigration service department.
Sure, you might try "but I have a small baby" argument in your appeal but I doubt this is going to melt any heart in the concerned department.
Having baby in this situation is just wrong, logically speaking. What the hell both of you were thinking. Have you heard of a word widely know as "planning"?
As you never visited Finland let alone living here so obviously this has raised eyebrows in immigration service department.
Sure, you might try "but I have a small baby" argument in your appeal but I doubt this is going to melt any heart in the concerned department.
Re: my residence permit is in process can i apply tourest vi
thanx all friend for reply .. now my question is .... my wife and son have visa for india 2 month more they will go back finland after 2 months,, and may i can apply application from to india while they are still in india for 2 months or not
Re: my residence permit is in process can i apply tourest vi
Of course I know...!!!! just to be sure.Adrian42 wrote:Ouch!Rara wrote:If you already married, its mean there is a new proof that you have. You can appeal the case or submit a new application. Its you and your wife to decide it. Both are take a long time. If you appeal the case, for administrative court it takes about 6 to 12 months.
But if for new application, for Finnish citizenship average processing about 4 to 6 months. And maximum processing is 9 months, must have the result for application base on family tie.
It hurts that you don't even seem to know the difference between a residence permit and citizenship.
sorry to say you just need to read again..and consult to lawyer.
Re: my residence permit is in process can i apply tourest vi
I would advise you that proof of visit, proof of fatherhood(why not get a blood-test), why not get some local official to write out a letter of recommendation that you are who you are.Letter of testimonies from friends etc etc, you need to just keep adding the ammunition to blast away any possible chances of rejection, this is how its done.A mindless attempt at entering a country is considered the applicants future in the country,which is mindless.navi wrote:thanx all friend for reply .. now my question is .... my wife and son have visa for india 2 month more they will go back finland after 2 months,, and may i can apply application from to india while they are still in india for 2 months or not
Be mindful of every opportunity to prove you have good intentions and are the type of character that is acceptable to live in the country of your choice.This place already has enough retards...
Make your application from india like every normal father would, proving you have duties there and proving that when you have been given the Res permit that you have duties to fulfill in finland.Prove to them that you are dutiful.
The course is simple, dont make yourself a retard in a country that you dont speak the language and you dont make any money for any period of time that is not necessary.
Thats my free advice.