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blackdragone
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by blackdragone » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:57 pm
If you're looking for a job in Helsinki, you should check this page out:
http://www.linkedin.com/company/1916426?trk=jobtocomp
In particular I know they're searching for
German speaking people in the customer support team. I think also Chinese and Arab speaking people are very welcome to apply for that.
Not living in Finland at the moment is not an obstacle for the interview because they can arrange it via skype.
My husband works there and he's really happy, best work environment he ever had.
Paola
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Haatchi
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by Haatchi » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:57 pm
I'm in need for a regular part time job and have one of the languages but am mid 40's housewife type (current part time jobs housekeeping and nanny) not much of a computer person but some customer service experience....would this job suit an older, non fashion and non party person?
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blackdragone
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by blackdragone » Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:11 pm
I cannot tell you, best thing you can do is applying and try!

I just wanted to report these opportunities to all you people, I know it can be tricky to find an English speaking workplace here.
Paola
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Adrian42
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by Adrian42 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:00 pm
blackdragone wrote:If you're looking for a job in Helsinki, you should check this page out:
http://www.linkedin.com/company/1916426?trk=jobtocomp
In particular I know they're searching for
German speaking people in the customer support team. I think also Chinese and Arab speaking people are very welcome to apply for that.
Not living in Finland at the moment is not an obstacle for the interview because they can arrange it via skype.
My husband works there and he's really happy, best work environment he ever had.
Paola
blackdragone wrote:I cannot tell you, best thing you can do is applying and try!

I just wanted to report these opportunities to all you people, I know it can be tricky to find an English speaking workplace here.
Paola
Linkedin says 55 people already applied to that job through Linkedin (and likely additional people through other channels).
They don't list any customer support positions among the 4 open positions on their webpage.
I am pretty sure they were so overwhelmed with job applications that they are no longer looking to receive more.
Haatchi wrote:I'm in need for a regular part time job and have one of the languages but am mid 40's housewife type (current part time jobs housekeeping and nanny) not much of a computer person but some customer service experience....would this job suit an older, non fashion and non party person?
Applying for such a position would be a waste of your time since you would anyway not have the slightest chance of getting it.
There are thousands of people in Helsinki who are interested in this kind of jobs, and who know much about current computer games and social networks (an average 20-25 year old male likely has the technical skills for such a position that you lack).
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blackdragone
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by blackdragone » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:25 pm
My husband is one of the leaders of customer support, I think I know what I' m talking about

. The position is customer support specialist, listed in Linkedin. Trust their Linkedin page more than their website because it's definitely more updated with open positions. They're now interviewing a lot and despite of the big number of applicants still making choices.
I think Haatchi should apply anyway...surely one gets no job if they do not apply at all!
I honestly do not know which kind of computer skills level one needs, the customer support is mostly replying to emails.
Paola
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Adrian42
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by Adrian42 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:59 pm
blackdragone wrote:I think Haatchi should apply anyway...surely one gets no job if they do not apply at all!
Neither does one get a job by applying for positions when the minimum requirements for the position are not even remotely met.
Ask your husband - I am sure he will confirm that it is a complete waste of time for everyone involved when a woman in the mid-40s without any relation to computer games applies for such a position.
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ziertz
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by ziertz » Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:14 am
Adrian42 wrote:
Applying for such a position would be a waste of your time since you would anyway not have the slightest chance of getting it.
There are thousands of people in Helsinki who are interested in this kind of jobs, and who know much about current computer games and social networks (an average 20-25 year old male likely has the technical skills for such a position that you lack).
What?
She has one of the requested languages. How many 20-25 year olds in Helsinki have those language skills, particularly Chinese and Arabic? I would guess not many. And language would be the primary skill set that is requested in this job.
In my opinion, advising people not to apply for a job that they would like is very negative. What is there to lose in applying and not getting it?
Haatchi, go ahead and apply. You already have the primary skill that the company is looking for.
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onkko
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by onkko » Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:18 pm
ziertz wrote:
She has one of the requested languages. How many 20-25 year olds in Helsinki have those language skills, particularly Chinese and Arabic?
Arabic 335 and chinese 546, thats 20 to 24y old tho and whole uusimaa area. Only 175 german speakers in that age group.
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Oombongo
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by Oombongo » Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:07 pm
onkko wrote:ziertz wrote:
She has one of the requested languages. How many 20-25 year olds in Helsinki have those language skills, particularly Chinese and Arabic?
Arabic 335 and chinese 546, thats 20 to 24y old tho and whole uusimaa area. Only 175 german speakers in that age group.
oh come on! anyone can do that
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blackdragone
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by blackdragone » Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:18 pm
I agree with ziertz, suggesting to someone not to apply for a job is a negative and unproductive attitude... especially because they won't tear you down neither insult you if you do not fit the position

. They will simply say "I'm sorry, we're looking for someone different".
There may be plenty of people in their 20s who speak those languages, but for instance they do not find a German speaking, even if this sounds crazy!!!
I don't think the age matters, of course it may be a problem if one really is not able to deal with a computer. I suggest to take a shot and see, if at least some of the competences required are fulfilled.
Paola
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Adrian42
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by Adrian42 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:17 pm
ziertz wrote:Adrian42 wrote:
Applying for such a position would be a waste of your time since you would anyway not have the slightest chance of getting it.
There are thousands of people in Helsinki who are interested in this kind of jobs, and who know much about current computer games and social networks (an average 20-25 year old male likely has the technical skills for such a position that you lack).
What?
She has one of the requested languages. How many 20-25 year olds in Helsinki have those language skills, particularly Chinese and Arabic? I would guess not many. And language would be the primary skill set that is requested in this job.
The job offer from that company states the opposite of your "And language would be the primary skill set" claim.
Requirements the company lists include:
- Ability to process large amounts of data with the ability to quickly extracts the relevant information from it
- Understanding of different marketplaces and game versions
- Experience or knowledge of customer support on social networks
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Adrian42
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by Adrian42 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:30 pm
blackdragone wrote:I agree with ziertz, suggesting to someone not to apply for a job is a negative and unproductive attitude... especially because they won't tear you down neither insult you if you do not fit the position

. They will simply say "I'm sorry, we're looking for someone different".
I never claimed any insults were involved.
What I said was "Ask your husband - I am sure he will confirm that it is
a complete waste of time for everyone involved when a woman in the mid-40s without any relation to computer games applies for such a position."
blackdragone wrote:I don't think the age matters,
Age itself doesn't matter, but when a person is over 30 it is extremely unlikely the person knows much about current social networks and computer games.
blackdragone wrote:of course it may be a problem if one really is not able to deal with a computer. I suggest to take a shot and see, if at least some of the competences required are fulfilled.
And the person whom you told to apply is so obviously far away from the competences required. Or does your husband say she would have any chance of getting that job if she applied?
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by Rick1 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:58 pm
Do not know what you do at the moment Adrian42 but I have seen more of your negative replies, your view is very limited, I know some people who have bought their first Apple at the age of 76 and can tell you more about games then me (who does not play). With your attitude we do not come anywhere and better today buy a rope or a family package Burana.
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Adrian42
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by Adrian42 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:42 pm
Rick1 wrote:your view is very limited, I know some people who have bought their first Apple at the age of 76 and can tell you more about games then me (who does not play).
My view is limited to the one person to whom Paola recommended to apply for this position, who had previously stated explicitly "am mid 40's housewife type (current part time jobs housekeeping and nanny) not much of a computer person".
Paola insists that it makes sense for this specific person to apply for this specific position.
Do you think it makes sense for this specific person to apply for this specific position or not?
(A mid 40s person who plays current computer games and heavily uses social networks would be a completely different situation.)
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rinso
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by rinso » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:44 pm
Adrian42 wrote:
What I said was "Ask your husband - I am sure he will confirm that it is a complete waste of time for everyone involved when a woman in the mid-40s without any relation to computer games applies for such a position."
Sometimes recruiters have a hidden agenda. They look for a special skill/attitude which they don't advertise (they don't want a "fake" resume written to comply) but which is considered more important than a perfect match on the other points.
I agree that when you don't fit the main requirements you'll have little chance. But you never know what they are really looking for.