Advice on gaining more suitable employment

[Haatchi]

i'm just back from a weekend trip and i got talking to the woman sitting next to me on the airplane...and she mentioned that she was a member of a homecare team in Helsinki...i asked her if she could answer some questions as I know someone interested...she said that they are always short of staff and age doesn't matter as soon as person is capable (able to perform everyday tasks in their own life without problems) and reliable with no criminal record and some kind of relevant experience...she also said that there are hours to suit every lifestyle and the has some co-workers who continue to work part-time after retirement age (they are over 67!)...health tests are only done for routinely contagious stuff and drug addiction as you have access to prescription drugs in these positions.

Uniforms are supplied for workers so lack of clothing not a problem either.

I think this work is with clients who live independently and only require a few hours help a day so they can obviously move themselves around and no lifting needed...

i'll advise the person to speak to their trainer at the hospice and ask for a reference contact...and to search a number of companies on the Internet and contact them by email (free) and ask for any possible vacancies...

this person has very low confidence and that is due to having to work for a few euro cash in that nanny job...and I have to say the employers are the kind of people who are not good to know, they get off on using people (this is maybe because one of them comes from a culture where people with no own land and no family often live as 'servants' in the homes of those who have it, working all hours for food and a bed)...she wants to leave but it some form of income...these employers are not rich themselves and also seem to blow the bit they do have on things like nice clothes...the family live in a studio flat one has a good job but he other one works in fast food at minimum wage and they only need a nanny as they fight so much so they go out for peace from each other...the person is from a very warm and close family, brought up well and likes a tidy home and healthy food and the environment of that workplace is making her uncomfortable...

[Karhunkoski]

some co-workers who continue to work part-time after retirement age (they are over 67!)

Uniforms are supplied for workers so lack of clothing not a problem either.

Now that's a relief.

(Sorry, I couldn't resist)

[cors187]

Invite her to a challenge, to write down her character strengths and talents. and then post them back up for us!

That should be done in the first post instead of summing up all the problems that she has.

Im still waiting for the list of character strengths and talenst?

[Flossy1978]

I want to know how someone gets over ADHD as this poster stated? People don't get over such a thing. They just learn how to cope and use medicine.

If the poster's friend is so unhappy with that work with that family who is paying cash, why doesn't she report them? As it is, she herself is doing something illegal. Taking money for a job without reporting it as work, even if the income is so little you pay very little taxes on it. That's a big 'no no' here.

There are plenty of people in this world who get up very early to go to work. I am one of them and so are many of my co-workers.

Your friend sounds rather picky. Not wanting jobs which would interfer with her relationship? Many people work different shifts than their partners. It's just how life is. You learn to work around it.

This thread reminds me of that other woman who came here who was apparently married and had a child in her home country, but wanted a man who treated her poorly here and wanted more children. And benefits were better in her home country, but she came here to prove herself, but could barely afford to live etc. Just weird.

This poster is also the same about KELA as that other woman I wrote about, who wrote about not wanting social services/KELA involved. KELA isn't the social services. They are two different organisations. KELA helps with money matters etc, they don't care if you're a fruitcake or not. You should go and talk to KELA and see how they can help you. Nothing bad will happen even if they can't help you. And if you need to, go and talk to an adult social services person. All they can do is either help you or not help you. They aren't going to cart you off to the loony asylum or put some mark against your name.

Goodluck.

[Haatchi]

There is a lot of people from cultures where there is no social system who are afraid of approaching the Government for help...some are scared of being labelled a sponger by their families and some are scared of authority as in some countries they are corrupt, some people are even victims of crime and avoid going to the police as in their home countries there is corruption. My next door neighbour, from a -stan originally but has relatives here, living here for 15 yrs , degree and ok job, has a lifelong health condition and insisted on paying for the medicine himself until he was explained that he could get it on the KELA,he thought if he HAS the money he'll pay even if its leaving him short.In his country you have to pay for hospital food, bandages and medicine and supply your own sheets.

the last poster mentioned that getting up early for work is normal, yes it is if the work is regular and pays a living wage, but being called out at a few hours notice 3 times a month , this is suitable for someone who needs extra pocket money and not as a main income.Hearing at 22.oo that you have to be somewhere 80km away at 5.30 next morning when you have made plans not too good and sitting at home waiting for the phone to call. People who are 'on call' should be paid for their time, that is the problem, not the early mornings.

I don't know these people well, they took over our old house for the reminder of the lease and renewed it in their name, mostly dealing with the guy who told me about the situation as he doesn't know what to do .I spoke to him last night as the building is getting free Broadband and he called to ask how to stop their own service they took over.I don't know if any of them has children or who is married to whom. He said his partner has phoned the MOL customer line desk different from the office front desk and explained the situation, the callhandler told her to go to their local office and try to register for help with finding work as the hours she works are few enough for her to qualify and about the family yes what they are doing IS illegal and they will take the details of information down...

the family are from a part of the world where this sort of thing seems common, even people make their relatives work in their businesses for food and shelter only, they maybe think that is ok here they don't know its illegal

[Haatchi]

Good News, the person I wanted to help has landed a new part time job , alternate Saturdays 2 hrs just tidying up an office, restocking tea/coffee and recycling paperwaste, its temp for 12 weeks as person off sick leave, they pay weekend rate and despite tax its the same money as the 'nanny' job was as there are no coach tickets and hot drinks and food for journey to pay for!!! And they are now going to do a real training course as well...and some sort of agency work as a health service domestic until she can get herself set up.

Also the Bf told me the 'nanny 'job was actually for a single young guy whose gf kicked him out and Children's services got an order on him to stay away from his child, but he somehow bribes his ex-gf's new partner into breach of the order and sneaks the child into his bedsit illegally at weekends, this is why he cannot access municipal childcare schemes schemes and get subsidy, the sod actually admitted it to her when she called him and said that the journey was costing too much, could he give her a recommendation to find a job closer to home. His plan was to get the nanny to move in with him as his new GF but when she told him she is living with a partner he lost it completely this is why he treated her like he did...but was unable to get someone else. He paid CASH as any taxation reference would have shown that he has a child at his bedsit when he's not allowed to have the child there hence the secrecy. The guy was living in total squalor and cannot even cook a basic meal also he seems to have a temper... the bf says he cannot think what would have happened if that would have been a petite and naive young girl...the guy should be reported as he is breaking the law but they are both scared he may come after them if they do report him.

sure anyone would not stay in a job where this is going on, its not a safe place to work and its best to break all contacts with a person like that, if they get found out then they might blame the worker and things can get unpleasant ,also enabling (by being a 'no questions asked' nanny someone to take their child home when the court says no is assisting an offender. This is not being 'picky' in any way. If anyone is looking for any part time weekend work and comes across THAT its best not to accept it.

[onkko]

haatchi youre full of !"#¤%.

Give me court number about "and Children's services got an order on him to stay away from his child" also 3 month sick leave on almost any reason is rarer than diamond. My friend just fell off on roof and shattered his ribs, 4 weeks.
You sound like one "french" who was "apalled" about "finns"....

Ps. Court number isnt necessary, name and date do or if you cant do that then only date or name.

[Flossy1978]

I don't know about the child social services stuff....

But I was off work for 5 months straight. For the two years before this I was off work constantly. Finally after seeing the MRI of my spine, the doctor got so angry at me for being at work. Seriously, angry because the problem was a !"#¤% worse than she had expected. Never seen a doctor angry at a patient before. I could barely walk and was becoming paralysed. Well, I am an Aussie and I use to just get on with things even when half dead..... So I was sent packing that moment from work and wasn't allowed back until I had surgery and recovered.

There are others here at work who've been given even longer sickleave and for more mundane reasons than mine.

Not saying the poster isn't !"#¤%...... LOL.

[onkko]

I don't know about the child social services stuff....

But I was off work for 5 months straight. For the two years before this I was off work constantly. Finally after seeing the MRI of my spine, the doctor got so angry at me for being at work. Seriously, angry because the problem was a !"#¤% worse than she had expected. Never seen a doctor angry at a patient before. I could barely walk and was becoming paralysed. Well, I am an Aussie and I use to just get on with things even when half dead..... So I was sent packing that moment from work and wasn't allowed back until I had surgery and recovered.

There are others here at work who've been given even longer sickleave and for more mundane reasons than mine.

Not saying the poster isn't !"#¤%...... LOL.

My uncle got told that hes "lazy" because he had back problems, he has "spine partion" what was removed in surgery and he named it laziness

But anyway telling that there is restraining order and kids are in there anyway is bit too thick to believe. Anyone allowing that is in deep !"#¤%.

[niloofar]

She'd better to contact with the nearest social office to her place and meet the social worker.Firstly she has to get rid of financial problems then she can find a better way to study or work.If both are unemployed,they have the right to get housing allowance and living allowance.Housing allowance for a couple in Helsinki region includes water is 810e per month and living allowance is about 800 e altogether.Electricity bills,medical fees+prescribed medicines is paid seperately by social office.As long as you study in college they will cover your tuition as well.Furthermore,social worker book you time in unemployment office and you will be interviewd there and you will discuss about your future plan.There is a kind of integration plan up to 3 years for foreigners to gain the language skills if they lack.In social office they will be asked to show their previous incomes,bank statements,tax cards,....any incomes or properties will be calculated as your income and it will be reduced from the amount of money you are eligible to get.
This is very extra information but I would like to explain things thoroughly.During integration period(studying Finnish) and after that if you study in college (not for higher education) you get 9e per day from kela for those days you have been at school.This covers your lunch and transportation expences.Even you get it up to 18e per day if your school is too far away from Helsinki.But in most colleges you get lunch free of charge.It's too silly if someone doesn't like to study .