Australian bartender seeking a job

[alexander.pitt1990]

Hi guys, my name's Alex.

I'm in the process of applying for Finnish university, specifically Metropolia's Engineering program and i was wondering if anyone knew of any bar jobs going?

Ideally i'd like to have a job sorted before i touch down in Helsinki (early April), then again wouldn't everyone?

I've been in hospitality since i was 15, serving alcohol for the past 5 years in places from pubs to clubs to private functions and hostels overseas. (That last one was involuntary, some bugger stole all my cards).

When it comes to my references, i'm confident all would recommend me as an employee. If their Australian phone number isn't good enough, let me know and i'll organise their private email addresses for you to contact them by.

Contact me for my resume.

Cheers,
Alexander Pitt.

[Adrian42]

I'm in the process of applying for Finnish university, specifically Metropolia's Engineering program and i was wondering if anyone knew of any bar jobs going?

You already speak Finnish at a near-native level?

That's usually a prerequisite for this kind of jobs.

Also read the bold text at http://opinto-opas.metropolia.fi/en/gen ... of-living/

Ideally i'd like to have a job sorted before i touch down in Helsinki (early April)

You are aware that you are anyway not allowed to work during the 90 days visa-free stay, and cannot start working until your student visa got approved?

[mrjimsfc]

You are aware that you are anyway not allowed to work during the 90 days visa-free stay, and cannot start working until your student visa got approved?

So how do company's that hire foreign workers to work at Olkiluoto get around that problem?

[Upphew]

You are aware that you are anyway not allowed to work during the 90 days visa-free stay, and cannot start working until your student visa got approved?

So how do company's that hire foreign workers to work at Olkiluoto get around that problem?

Workers from EU.

[cors187]

Summer 2011 i came in on 90 day no visa and got a taxcard (35%tax minus 500euro per month) and started working.
You just need a 90 day contract.I would like to see the pages showing any change in legislation?

[Upphew]

Summer 2011 i came in on 90 day no visa and got a taxcard (35%tax minus 500euro per month) and started working.
You just need a 90 day contract.I would like to see the pages showing any change in legislation?

http://www.migri.fi/working_in_finland/right_to_work
http://www.migri.fi/working_in_finland/ ... nce_permit

edit. added 2nd link

[Adrian42]

You are aware that you are anyway not allowed to work during the 90 days visa-free stay, and cannot start working until your student visa got approved?

So how do company's that hire foreign workers to work at Olkiluoto get around that problem?

Workers from EU.

Or residence permits based on work.

[alexander.pitt1990]

Hey guys, cheers for the input.

I'd have to wait till I get a student resident permit, then start trying to get a job.
I've heard that Aussie bar is all English speaking, know anywhere else like that? My Finnish is basic, I'll be taking lessons once I get there.

[Adrian42]

I've heard that Aussie bar is all English speaking, know anywhere else like that?

I guess you also heard that Aussie bar has an age limit of 24, and I doubt they would hire someone who is too young for going there as a customer.

Jobs like at Aussie Bar that don't require speaking Finnish do exist in Finland. But they are rare, and many foreigners compete for these few jobs.

[ruusu25]

Hi Alex,

Although I'm not 100% sure, I believe that in addition to Aussie Bar, Molly Malone's (an Irish bar) also employs some non-Finnish speakers. Their most recent round of hiring has just ended, but you might contact them to find out when they'll hire again. It seems plausible they might go through some staffing changes near the start of the summer.

Here's their website: http://www.mollymalones.fi/

And here's an old post to this forum with a contact e-mail address for the bar: viewtopic.php?f=37&t=69761

And although you probably are too young for Aussie bar, it couldn't hurt to ask, right? You've got nothing to lose, in any case.

Best of luck finding a job and settling down in Helsinki!

Bri

[cors187]

Summer 2011 i came in on 90 day no visa and got a taxcard (35%tax minus 500euro per month) and started working.
You just need a 90 day contract.I would like to see the pages showing any change in legislation?

http://www.migri.fi/working_in_finland/right_to_work
http://www.migri.fi/working_in_finland/ ... nce_permit

edit. added 2nd link

http://www.migri.fi/working_in_finland/ ... nce_permit
You do not need a residence permit for an employed person or any other residence permit in the following cases:

if you are an interpreter, a teacher, a specialist, or a sports judge or referee, you work on the basis of an invitation or a contract, and the duration of the job is no longer than three months

This is not so hard to get, but the type of job needs to be special skilled,plus acceptable contract or the vero reject your taxcard application.The biggest down fall is that its 35% tax , which is for all contracts under 90 days, and this includes foreigners and other EU(non Fin Social security number).

Good news for those EU whos country has the tax credit system with finland(EU)

For example, estoni kid come here on a 90 day summer job, he will receive the 35% taxcard , at the end of the estoni tax year he submits his earning in estoni as a tax resident, some how(unclear about this process) , but his estoni tax rate is 21% , so he is credited the 14% he paid over the estoni tax.

Lets say an estoni kid who has(Fin social security number) , comes for 3 months, his tax card might be 9% or 13% tax, he goes home to estoni and never says anything about the money so he gets a tax break of 8%-12% .

[alexander.pitt1990]

UPDATE:

If an Australian gains a working holiday visa, he/she may stay and work in Finland for up to 90 days, but can't be with one employer for more than 3 months.

After that i'd hope to be accepted to university and swap to a student visa, allowing me to work for up to 25 hours a week for the duration of my studies.

Just thought i'd throw it out there in case any one else was confused about the visa's.

[cors187]

UPDATE:

If an Australian gains a working holiday visa, he/she may stay and work in Finland for up to 90 days, but can't be with one employer for more than 3 months.

After that i'd hope to be accepted to university and swap to a student visa, allowing me to work for up to 25 hours a week for the duration of my studies.

Just thought i'd throw it out there in case any one else was confused about the visa's.

You should link that info because you may have combined 2 different arrangements in to that broad sentence.

Links?

[Upphew]

UPDATE:

If an Australian gains a working holiday visa, he/she may stay and work in Finland for up to 90 days, but can't be with one employer for more than 3 months.

One year. And it is residence permit, not visa.
http://www.finland.org.au/public/defaul ... ture=en-US

After that i'd hope to be accepted to university and swap to a student visa, allowing me to work for up to 25 hours a week for the duration of my studies.

Just thought i'd throw it out there in case any one else was confused about the visa's.

You are confused. Visa is for visiting (up to three months), residence permit is for residing.

[Adrian42]

UPDATE:

If an Australian gains a working holiday visa, he/she may stay and work in Finland for up to 90 days, but can't be with one employer for more than 3 months.

After that i'd hope to be accepted to university and swap to a student visa, allowing me to work for up to 25 hours a week for the duration of my studies.

That's correct (ignoring the visa <-> residence permit nitpick), but is it a good idea?

Getting the residence permits in Finland is your smaller worry, finding any jobs in Finland is the bigger problem.

You want to pay € 425 extra for a Working Holiday residence permit that gives you a small chance of a low-salary job this summer.

If you want to earn money for your studies, why don't you spend the time before your studies working in high-salary many-jobs Australia?

There is a very short fruit-picking season in the summer when you could pick fruits in Finland even without a residence permit, but financially it really makes more sense that you instead work in Australia before your studies.