Will I feel good in Finland?

[Pursuivant]

This lends great deal of credibility to Finns being kind of "pioneers" who were first ones to try to get away from their neighbours for more space (some things never change eh?). Had Finns trudged through already established settlements, genetic heritage would have changed on the journey. Instead it has remained distinctly separate.

So in other words, Finns have always been getting f*d...

[Tiwaz]

This lends great deal of credibility to Finns being kind of "pioneers" who were first ones to try to get away from their neighbours for more space (some things never change eh?). Had Finns trudged through already established settlements, genetic heritage would have changed on the journey. Instead it has remained distinctly separate.

So in other words, Finns have always been getting f*d...

Or wanted to get rid of noisy neighbours. Or tax collectors.
Legend has it, that my own family ended up around my homeplace because they kept moving away little ahead tax collectors. I guess eventually they started seeing them coming from other direction as well and decided to settle in permanently.

[masao]

This lends great deal of credibility to Finns being kind of "pioneers" who were first ones to try to get away from their neighbours for more space (some things never change eh?). Had Finns trudged through already established settlements, genetic heritage would have changed on the journey. Instead it has remained distinctly separate.

So in other words, Finns have always been getting f*d...

Or wanted to get rid of noisy neighbours. Or tax collectors.
Legend has it, that my own family ended up around my homeplace because they kept moving away little ahead tax collectors. I guess eventually they started seeing them coming from other direction as well and decided to settle in permanently.

Too bad a lot of you have lost your sense of humor.
t, masao

[foca]

When a Finnish Lutheran and a Finnish Jew committed a crime together and someone speaks about "a Finn and a Jew"

and who is supposed to have said that?

I am really sorry , how would you describe a situation like that? A Lutheran and a Jew both of a Finnish persuasion committed a crime? Or two true Finns did that?
Coming back to the original post.
In the pre revolutionary Russia a Jew could only be Jewish, in case one converted , one stopped being a Jew, restrictions applied to jewish communities were lifted for that person , but at the same time he was ejected from his native community and kagal system. There is number of converts who became very very prominent in the society - Ilya Repin etc. So in my list it did not matter what to say : Jew or Jewish .. The person was neither ...

[foca]

Thus (to a certain extent, of course) it is not correct to use the term "Russians" when applied to the Red Army during the Winter war for example.

IIRC there was an Ukranian contingent that got decimated, and was quite conveniently "forgotten" in the propaganda it ever had existed.

According to the official view they ll were one true new entity - new soviet nation . But of course people who were part of it new they were Russian, Ukrainians, Tatars , Finns , Belorussians , Latvians etc.......Propaganda always tried to point the little " differences" ( funny Ukrainian accent or a piece of national dress. Etc.), while cultivating the union which supposed to exist.

[Tiwaz]

Too bad a lot of you have lost your sense of humor.
t, masao

Oh, we have great sense of humor my good chap.
You just need refined taste to understand it.

[masao]

Too bad a lot of you have lost your sense of humor.
t, masao

Oh, we have great sense of humor my good chap.
You just need refined taste to understand it.

Nope. Most don't have your kind. Off goes a good sense of humor along with heavy tax burden.
Even Putous was getting dull this year, except for a few sketches including TVoF parody, which was a killer.
You should join the team of writers.
t, masao

[Oho]

Nope. Most don't have your kind. Off goes a good sense of humor along with heavy tax burden.
Even Putous was getting dull this year, except for a few sketches including TVoF parody, which was a killer.
You should join the team of writers.
t, masao

No kidding. With all due respect or lack there off, if you found any incarnation of Putous funny, I think you ought to be more worried about your sense of humor rather than that of the greater public. Well time to put myself out on the limb, but what I do find mostly funny is deadpan delivery of Pirjo Heikkilä in YLE leaks.

[Rip]

When a Finnish Lutheran and a Finnish Jew committed a crime together and someone speaks about "a Finn and a Jew"

and who is supposed to have said that?

I am really sorry , how would you describe a situation like that? A Lutheran and a Jew both of a Finnish persuasion committed a crime? Or two true Finns did that?

Probably one or the other (without the word 'true', what ever you mean with that), depending on if the religion would seem to be relevant.

I was just trying to get Adrian42 tell where was this supposed statement regarding a "Finnish Lutheran and a Finnish Jew" originally made.

[foca]

I was just trying to get Adrian42 tell where was this supposed statement regarding a "Finnish Lutheran and a Finnish Jew" originally made.

My question was also meant for Adrian42

[Rip]

I was just trying to get Adrian42 tell where was this supposed statement regarding a "Finnish Lutheran and a Finnish Jew" originally made.

My question was also meant for Adrian42

Easier to understand if you quote the right person..

[Adrian42]

When a Finnish Lutheran and a Finnish Jew committed a crime together and someone speaks about "a Finn and a Jew"

and who is supposed to have said that?

That is a slightly more obvious example of the pattern in

One of my grandfathers was convicted by " troika" , consisting of:
1. Nurminen Arvo ( obviously Finn)
2. Socelovatis Ingvar ( Latvian??)
3. Marmelstein Iosif ( Jewish)

Should I harbor hatred towards Finns, Latvians and Jews as peoples?

[Adrian42]

When a Finnish Lutheran and a Finnish Jew committed a crime together and someone speaks about "a Finn and a Jew"

and who is supposed to have said that?

I am really sorry , how would you describe a situation like that? A Lutheran and a Jew both of a Finnish persuasion committed a crime?

"Two Finns" committed the crime.

Or if it happened in Finland "two men", since there is usually neither a reason for mentioning the nationality nor the religion in that case.

Only when the religion is relevant in the crime (e.g. if a Christian burned down a mosque) it is reasonable to mention the religion of the offender.

Or two true Finns did that?

That would blame a specific political party. Unless that party was involved in the crime that would be wrong.

[Rip]

That is a slightly more obvious example of the pattern in

No, it is straw man when the original almost certainly was a group of Soviet citizens with various ethnicities.

[Pursuivant]

That is a slightly more obvious example of the pattern in

No, it is straw man when the original almost certainly was a group of Soviet citizens with various ethnicities.

Categorized by what was at the time the practice in the Soviet Union.