Finding a job in Finland and applying through Mol.fi

[deepupkn]

Hi Everyone,
This is my first post. I am from India and currently living in Joensuu. I used to work as a Technical support engineer / System administrator back in India. I have been applying for jobs in Finland for over 7 months now. But never have I gotten any replies or positive replies from any companies. I have limited working proficiency in Finnish language. To say about my visa status - I came here as a dependent under my wife's visa. She is a student here. As per the visa, I think I can work for any number of hours. Is it true that only Finnish citizens and those with permanent resident status can apply through Mol.fi? I think I have send more that 1000 or may be double that number of applications till now. I am learning Finnish language also. I have tried my luck at Supermarkets and cleaning agencies also, but no way. I have 8 years experience as a Service engineer / Technical support engineer / System administrator. I have heard that people holding Indian driving license (Under Geneva Convention treaty) can drive in Finland without applying for Finnish driving permit. Is it possible to find job as a driver / taxi driver here? Guys any help would be considered grateful.

Thanking you all in advance for the replies.

[cors187]

Here is the first part of your answer.
http://www.migri.fi/services/faq/reside ... its/family

Question 15>
15. I have a residence permit for Finland on the basis of family ties. May I work and study in Finland?

If you have a residence permit granted on the basis of family ties, you have the right to gainful employment and study without restrictions in Finland.

[Adrian42]

I am from India and currently living in Joensuu. I used to work as a Technical support engineer / System administrator back in India. I have been applying for jobs in Finland for over 7 months now. But never have I gotten any replies or positive replies from any companies. I have limited working proficiency in Finnish language. To say about my visa status - I came here as a dependent under my wife's visa. She is a student here. As per the visa, I think I can work for any number of hours. Is it true that only Finnish citizens and those with permanent resident status can apply through Mol.fi? I think I have send more that 1000 or may be double that number of applications till now.

How on earth did you manage to send over 1000 applications in just 7 months? I don't think there are not that many open positions in your job field in Finland. If you are spamming companies that are not even hiring at the moment, then it is expected that you will never receive any answer.

The Finnish IT job market has not yet recovered from the suicide of Nokia 2 years ago, and there are many unemployed people in IT in Finland at the moment. If you are extremely good in the areas you work in there are still some jobs available, but there is much competition for the few jobs available.

Mol.fi does not have more than the jobs you can search on their webpage, and you apply directly at the companies offering the jobs.

Forget your I have limited working proficiency in Finnish language, the only jobs you have a chance of getting are the ones where only English is required.

I am learning Finnish language also. I have tried my luck at Supermarkets and cleaning agencies also, but no way.
Is it possible to find job as a driver / taxi driver here?

IT is the only field where you have a realistic chance of finding a job without speaking Finnish perfectly.

The economic crisis caused by the f*ckup of the people in Southern Europe is now also reaching Finland, with nearly daily news about layoffs in Finnish companies and increasing unemployment rates in Finland.

[Pursuivant]

You have a few problems there to start with
1) you live in Joensuu - Chronic unemployment in North Karelia has been in the 35-50% for years.
2) you think you can find a job on mol.fi - you think those jobs don't get 1000 applications?

And for getting a taxi job you need to take a course and test, its like hackney in London, not that easy. And then you need to find someone with a taxi operating licence to hire you.

[Adrian42]

2) you think you can find a job on mol.fi - you think those jobs don't get 1000 applications?

Many IT jobs are not advertised through mol.fi, and the situation ain't better for those.

[Adrian42]

The Finnish IT job market has not yet recovered from the suicide of Nokia 2 years ago, and there are many unemployed people in IT in Finland at the moment. If you are extremely good in the areas you work in there are still some jobs available, but there is much competition for the few jobs available.

Stop generalizing bloody IT... Its vast field: The argument of Nokia is becoming pretty lame...

It is not lame, it is the truth.

I could name several IT companies big and small in Finland that still have layoffs today due to losing their business with or around Nokia. You cannot deny that compared to the small IT job market in Finland, what happened to Nokia has a huge effect.

You are right that IT is a vast field, and job opportunities differ in different areas of IT. But the overall picture is much worse than it was in 2010. Let's put it this way: When you graduate with a Masters degree in Computer Science today, it is not easy to find any job in IT. And that puts pressure on all fields of IT: Someone who might have specialized on MeeGo before and easily found a job in that area before, might now instead attempt to find a job in a different area of IT that appears to offer good job opportunities - increasing the competition there.

Good people are not having a problem with finding a job in IT in Finland at the moment, but worse people have huge problems.

[deepupkn]

Thank you all for your valuable replies dear friends. When I said that I have applied over 1000 applications, I meant some 20-30% applications went to the Finnish job market and rest to different parts of Europe. To be sincere I had created one application letter / cover letter and drafted in such a way that it suits every company's profile that I apply to. My majority of work was based on server administration, installation, active directory, maintaining user profiles, security policies and so on. I am also or was certified in CCNA and CCNP both certifications expired in 2012. I have no experience in programming. I am now just ..hoping for the best. ..yes for the best. I do hope something good will come my way.

[Oombongo]

I am sorry to know your situation.
things are quite bad in Finland, and it is bad even for guys with years of work experience in Finland under their belts. You should try Sweden and Norway as well.

(Is Finnish government being honest about unemployment figures, or hides fellas who are unemployed and receiving unemployment support from say YTK while learning Finnish etc. for example)?

[Oye]

To be sincere I had created one application letter / cover letter and drafted in such a way that it suits every company's profile that I apply to.

Unfortunately this is already a reason for you not to get short listed here, you are trying to get away easier than it is, which means: no job. You may think you have crafted a clever letter, but every recruiter can tell which letters have been sent in masses. An employee who will do anything for anyone is not interesting. Obviously there may be other reasons for you not to be short listed too, like the location and your skills not matching the requirements.

[Pursuivant]

(Is Finnish government being honest about unemployment figures, or hides fellas who are unemployed and receiving unemployment support from say YTK while learning Finnish etc. for example)?

Well, there is already two different figures given by the government. Remember what I said if you are living in Finland and are on a Finnish course, you are neither "student" or "unemployed"...

The työvoimatoimisto calculates only those registered as "työtön työnhakija" , you know, the magical "unemployed" , which is not unemployed if they are without work, or on a course etc.

The stat.fi calculates people in the workforce, and those that "should be working" counting off students, army recruits, jailbirds, permanently hospitalized, pensioners etc. etc. and comes up with another (higher) figure.

[daveba]

To be sincere I had created one application letter / cover letter and drafted in such a way that it suits every company's profile that I apply to.

Unfortunately this is already a reason for you not to get short listed here, you are trying to get away easier than it is, which means: no job. You may think you have crafted a clever letter, but every recruiter can tell which letters have been sent in masses. An employee who will do anything for anyone is not interesting. Obviously there may be other reasons for you not to be short listed too, like the location and your skills not matching the requirements.

I agree fully. It is a very commonly suggested fact by any good recruitment agent that you must not send applications with a standardised application letter. No matter how tedious it feels, you should write a separate letter for each application. Maybe you will send much less applications, but at least your chances of getting a call should improve.

There are many start ups in the Helsinki/south region, maybe you have better chances there? The other most important thing could be networking. Maybe enroll into a CCNA or other relevant course yourself again, you may find people from other companies and start developing your network? In a new place where nobody knows you it is REALLY hard to find a job.

Good luck.

[Sangdth]

My opinion you should call direct to company or go to their office. Finn don't know how to check email.

The second is stop believe in government, because they work on macro scale, and if they said that they will fix something, that mean they will do in 20 years future, not now.

Go out and build your own network with real person. Internet is just a tool, you can not do anything if you are alone. I got many jobs just from my friends.