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[Pursuivant]

all I see when anyone comes here with a genuine problem seeking some advice .

We can focus on this "genuine problem". They are easy problems to fix. Helpful advice - stop being late to work.

[sentajazz]

It seems to me that as soon as things are not going as you expected, you start to blame people and threaten with legal action.
It is your attitude that causes all your problems, not your skin colour or your nationality.

I agree. Once people move to a different country they should live according to the local customs and stop complaining about everything. Finland isn't a perfect country, but nobody is being forced to live here.

This 'forcing' thing confuses me... So, he is not forced to live here. How about some place he IS forced to live, like...the Earth? Is the planet Earth a perfect place? I guess not... So, in you're own opinion, since he IS forced to live on Earth, what would you suggest, should he complain about everything that bothers him? I'm just having difficulties understanding your philosophy, won't you help me? I was in a prison once, so I was forced to stay there, and it is not a perfect place, but I didn't have more rights. How can rights be associated with force?
The thing is, being an ASS almost certainly provides you with some kind of commanding employment everywhere in the world, the fact that you think in Finland an ass can do what he likes because his employees are not being forced to live here, that fact I can not understand.
I love Finland and the people are great, but this is not the first time I've heard of this Espoo newspapers boss, and here is what you should do: http://www.pau.fi/in_english/join_the_union/
cheers

[sentajazz]

all I see when anyone comes here with a genuine problem seeking some advice .

We can focus on this "genuine problem". They are easy problems to fix. Helpful advice - stop being late to work.

True. But it is interesting that everybody focused on just one thing, being late for work. Yeah, like that's even possible, anyone who did this job knows that you can't be late for work since there is no strict time of arrival. So, I'm not sure what really goes on in their branch, but it's fishy for sure...

[Pursuivant]

This 'forcing' thing confuses me... So, he is not forced to live here. How about some place he IS forced to live, like...the Earth? Is the planet Earth a perfect place? I guess not... So, in you're own opinion, since he IS forced to live on Earth, what would you suggest, should he complain about everything that bothers him?

He could sign up for that project to populate Mars.

I'm just having difficulties understanding your philosophy, won't you help me? I was in a prison once, so I was forced to stay there, and it is not a perfect place, but I didn't have more rights. How can rights be associated with force?

So, did you complain to the guy who had been there 20 years and had a life sentence? Think a little. the philosophy is, you only complain if there is something that can be changed by that complaining - or do things instead of complaining. Otherwise, you just annoy some guy bigger than you, and violence is the answer that brings peace and quiet - at least in a jail.

[Deni85]

How about some place he IS forced to live, like...the Earth?

This is simple to answer. If someone is not happy to live in the Earth, he doesn't have to. There are few options. Heaven is one option, even though I think hell would be a much better place to live.

I was in a prison once, so I was forced to stay there, and it is not a perfect place, but I didn't have more rights. How can rights be associated with force?

You were not forced to go to jail, your actions took you there. But you had two options: stay and complain every day or you could have escaped from prison and try a new life It is about the same for people moving here. Once they were living happily in their country, why would they want to live so miserable life in Finland? the difference is that they are free to go wherever they want. Even to hell.

the fact that you think in Finland an ass can do what he likes because his employees are not being forced to live here, that fact I can not understand.

When did I say I think this way? I said people should stop complaining about every little thing. Please, read my whole post before you make your own conclusions

If this would have happened in your country, I'm sure you would just take it as he is a terrible boss. But no, you are in Finland. It's easy to blame Finnish people and say they are racist.

[Deni85]

He could sign up for that project to populate Mars.

That's another great option

[rinso]

But it is interesting that everybody focused on just one thing, being late for work.

He got written warnings for that. And that makes it a strong issue in a work related dispute.

[Pursuivant]

Yeah, a "written warning" is in the line of things seriously serious business. Yes, they can be abused as well, but getting more than one is a sign of something. If the chemistry with the boss didn't work... meh. Then you ask for a transfer. Chances are if you get the same problem in another place, the douche in the equation is not the boss necessarily.

[sentajazz]

I'm just having difficulties understanding your philosophy, won't you help me? I was in a prison once, so I was forced to stay there, and it is not a perfect place, but I didn't have more rights. How can rights be associated with force?

So, did you complain to the guy who had been there 20 years and had a life sentence? Think a little. the philosophy is, you only complain if there is something that can be changed by that complaining - or do things instead of complaining. Otherwise, you just annoy some guy bigger than you, and violence is the answer that brings peace and quiet - at least in a jail.

I didn't take internet forum to be a place of complaints and bothering, I took it for a place where someone helps you with your worries and questions, no matter how stupid and boring they are. Nobody is forcing you to be here . You may not have noticed this, but some of the users here formed a group for judgement of everything and everyone who asks for help. This was aided by moderators doing nothing to prevent this. So in this state of homo homini lupus est, I am trying to get some kind of positive attitude going here.
Forget for a second that you ever visited this forum. Then enter finlandforum.org and browse it for a while. What do you see?
-I need work please help me: Go home, there is no work, you don't speak Finnish etc.
-I have a question about my RP: Go home, they will never approve it, you don't have what it takes, even if you get it there is no work for you, etc.
Sorry but that is just not true There's work, and there's life and if you can't help them, don't write anything. How did you become so cruel? This guy came from god knows where, and he's alone and he needs a job, and he doesn't know his way around here, but wants to work. So he has trouble at work, we all do. But he doesn't know what to do, so he asks for help. Is this not the place? And what does he get? Go to Mars. That's nice. Every post here goes off topic and nobody cares, there's no rules. This is probably the worse managed forum ever. Me, I'm just here to sell some old stuff.

So you want to say everybody has problems and his are less important because you are already sentenced to live in Finland 20 to life. I pity you. Why you present the country this way, it IS a land of opportunities, but it's all up to you. Happy Easter everybody, and try to be more patient in your conclusions.

[Pursuivant]

How did you become so cruel?

How did you become so stupid?

[sentajazz]

How did you become so cruel?

How did you become so stupid?

Sometimes you think that you talk about others but your word only reveal your own nature.

[rinso]

You may not have noticed this, but some of the users here formed a group for judgement of everything and everyone who asks for help. This was aided by moderators doing nothing to prevent this. So in this state of homo homini lupus est, I am trying to get some kind of positive attitude going here.

Most foreigners have expectations based on how things work at home. Well, in Finland it often works different. You can emit a positive attitude and encourage them. And let them wonder why nobody responded to their job applications. Or you can tell them what to expect so they can prepare themselves better.
Being a foreigner in Finland is often a handicap. Not speaking Finnish even a bigger one. Positive thinking doesn't remove the handicap. But by knowing and understanding it you might overcome them.

[Deni85]

I didn't take internet forum to be a place of complaints and bothering, I took it for a place where someone helps you with your worries and questions, no matter how stupid and boring they are. Nobody is forcing you to be here

Nobody is forcing you to be here either. Or instead you could stay and help others. It seems like you know a lot of things regarding to RP and work in Finland. Why don't you help?

There's work

Please, tell me where. I have so many friends who need a job and I am sure many people on this forum would appreciate this, since there are so many people looking for a job at the moment.

[Adrian42]

Forget for a second that you ever visited this forum. Then enter finlandforum.org and browse it for a while. What do you see?
-I need work please help me: Go home, there is no work, you don't speak Finnish etc.
-I have a question about my RP: Go home, they will never approve it, you don't have what it takes, even if you get it there is no work for you, etc.
Sorry but that is just not true There's work, and there's life and if you can't help them, don't write anything. How did you become so cruel?

No. What would be cruel would be not to tell the truth to someone and let him learn it the hard way instead.

Your There's work is simply nonsense for the average no-Finnish-and-no-qualifications poster here, whose chances of finding any job in Finland are small.

[Pursuivant]

Most foreigners have expectations based on how things work at home. Well, in Finland it often works different.

Naah, in Finland things "work like at home" - at least from the employer's p.o.v.
Though - yes, theres been some foreign employers doing things "like at home" and thats gotten them in trouble with the law as you can read from the papers.