visa-RP

[temim]

i am from Tunisia my wife is finnish citizen? The mariage is enregister in Tunisia and Finland.
i get visa to visit my wife in Finland, i fix all all documents
can i apply for resident permit in police in finland? and wait there

[Deni85]

i am from Tunisia my wife is finnish citizen?

I don't know.

i get visa to visit my wife in Finland, i fix all all documents
can i apply for resident permit in police in finland? and wait there

Yes you can and you can wait here for the decision.

[rinso]

i get visa to visit my wife in Finland, i fix all all documents
can i apply for resident permit in police in finland? and wait there

That implicates that you lied on your visa application.
(you say you want to visit her, but in fact you want to come for a residence permit)
Using a visa to enter the country and then apply for a residence permit is not looked upon well.
Your application will be reviewed more critical and it will take longer.
Depending on the person handling the application rejection might have a lower threshold.

[Flossy1978]

I agree with Rinso.

But isn't this what a lot of people do? I mean people on this board have even told foreigners to do it. I think it shouldn't be allowed to happen. Oh well. While he waits and waits and waits, he can't get any healthcare from the government, money, job, nothing.... Except pay for Finnish lessons himself, I suppose.

[Deni85]

Using a visa to enter the country and then apply for a residence permit is not looked upon well.

I agree with Rinso.

But isn't this what a lot of people do? I mean people on this board have even told foreigners to do it. I think it shouldn't be allowed to happen.

But this is not what he wants to hear. If he is not strong enough we will lose another one.

[Pursuivant]

They might deny your visa and advise you to apply for a RP. At least thats whats happened recently to a few other posters who were a bit upset of the situation.

[TwoThree]

^ Doesn't stop there. Even after I applied for a RP at the Finnish embassy in my home country I was advised not to apply for a short stay visa because "I would most likely be denied for fear that I wouldn't return home."

That's just how it works.

[cors187]

http://www.migri.fi/moving_to_finland_t ... sh_citizen

Submit your application at a Finnish embassy abroad or at your local police in Finland. Please note that you cannot submit your application to an honorary consulate. Contact your local police to find out which service point in the area provides licence services.

You must submit your residence permit application in person. Take with you the originals of the necessary appendices when you go to the embassy or police service point to submit your application.

If you submit your application to a Finnish embassy, you may visit Finland during the time your application is pending, but you must return to your home country when your visa or visa-free period expires.

[cors187]

i am from Tunisia my wife is finnish citizen?

Actually about your wife, is she a citizen or permanent resident.The difference is , its been noted that if your wife is a resident and you are applying for your first res-permit , you will be told to apply in your country of residence.
http://www.migri.fi/moving_to_finland_t ... in_finland

When you are a family member of a foreign citizen residing in Finland

View which form you will need to apply for a residence permit on the case-specific website under Family member of a holder of a Finnish residence permit or Family member of a recipient of international protection in Finland.

Outside Finland, the application should be submitted to a Finnish embassy. Please note that you cannot submit your application to a honorary consulate.

When you submit your application to a Finnish embassy, you may visit Finland during the time your application is pending, but you must return to your home country when your visa or visa-free period expires.

If you are already in Finland, submit your application to the police. In such cases a residence permit can only be granted if you could have been granted a residence permit when applying from abroad, and

you have lived together with your spouse for a minimum of two years, or
the denying of a residence permit would be patently unreasonable.

Contact your local police to find out which service point in the area provides licence services.

You must submit your residence permit application in person. Take with you the originals of the necessary appendices when you go to the embassy or police service point to submit your application.

[cors187]

Since when i have i cared what the OP wants?, if a person can bag out another person here ,so then i can give the extra info that shows the difference between a family member of a Finnish citizen and family member of a Finnish resident.And so i did because he had a question mark? on his first post.


http://www.poliisi.fi/poliisi/home.nsf/ ... endocument

The first fixed-term residence permit is generally issued for one year.

As a rule, an application for a residence permit should be submitted abroad before entering the country.

The first fixed-term residence permit is granted by the Finnish Immigration Service, and subsequently a new fixed-term residence permit (extended permit) can be issued by the police. However, the first fixed term residence permit for a family member of a Finnish citizen resident in Finland or a family member's unmarried child is also issued by the police.

The other info is relevant to everyone who cares to listen because poliisi can and will tell you to your face that your foreign spouse needs to submit the application in their residing country.
Its got something to do with how your foreigner spouse gets in the country on a guest visa and then turns up to poliisi for a res-permit with-in 3 months.
How does any foreigner get in the country on a guest visa(you have to tick the boxes that are appropriate) and not know they were going to apply for res-permit in the country???

[Tiwaz]

I agree with Rinso.

But isn't this what a lot of people do? I mean people on this board have even told foreigners to do it.

Many stupid things are suggested to foreigners on this board, does not make them necessarily wise things to do.

He said she's a citizen and you even quoted him. Still, I don't see how the whole piece is relevant to where to apply. The only difference between marrying a citizen and a foreign resident is in the proof of sufficient funds.

He said yes, but it does not make her citizen. It is my impression from time spent on this board that many people are seriously confused aboutthe varied legal states one might have when in Finland. I would not put it past OP to assume that because she lives in Finland she must be citizen while it is not true.

And sufficient funds can be massive hurdle, considering that if OP is confusing different legal positions, we might be talking about wife who is immigrant.
Considering background of OP, it would be less likely that she would be high salary white collar worker (if immigrant)... At which point the "necessary funds" can translate into "no way in hell".

[Adrian42]

considering that if OP is confusing different legal positions, we might be talking about wife who is immigrant.

There is exactly one post by the OP in this forum, he is stating explicitly that his wife is a Finnish citizen, and I am not seeing him confusing anything in his post.

[Tiwaz]

considering that if OP is confusing different legal positions, we might be talking about wife who is immigrant.

There is exactly one post by the OP in this forum, he is stating explicitly that his wife is a Finnish citizen, and I am not seeing him confusing anything in his post.

Which does not mean he does not confuse them.
There are lots of people here who are asking about visas when they should be asking residence permits and so forth, this often happens when people also appear to have poor grasp of English.

[Adrian42]

considering that if OP is confusing different legal positions, we might be talking about wife who is immigrant.

There is exactly one post by the OP in this forum, he is stating explicitly that his wife is a Finnish citizen, and I am not seeing him confusing anything in his post.

Which does not mean he does not confuse them.
There are lots of people here who are asking about visas when they should be asking residence permits and so forth, this often happens when people also appear to have poor grasp of English.

No, that has nothing to do with the level of English.

That visa/RP distinction that is used here in Finland is not present in many other countries like e.g. Australia or the USA. Even the famous Green Card in the US is for a visa.

When someone is a native English speaker, and in his home country what is here called RP is called visa, then it's not a surprise when he uses the term visa for an RP.