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desertsn0w
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Arab girl want to immigrate to Finland

Post by desertsn0w » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:06 am

hello everyone,
how's everyone doing?

im new here so excuse me if I made a mistake.

I'm 16 years old in high school (engineer student) and i want to move to finalnd
when I turn 18 years old (and of course when i finish high school)

I speak Arabic, Farsi, Hebrew, Esperanto and English fluently
and learning Swedish, Russian and Finnish


i chose Finland because everything is great about it, history, culture , people etc.

I've 2 quesions here
1-will Finns accept me? I'm middle eastern Arab with dark white color.
2-what's the easiest way to immigrate to Finland (other than marrying a native Finnish because i don't think Finnish guys are interested in other races specially Arabs)

that's all for now, thanks!!!


EDIT,,,
im Atheist and born Atheist so i don't wear the shi**y garbage on my head and stuff like that
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Adrian42
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Re: Arab girl want to immigrate to Finland

Post by Adrian42 » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:49 am

desertsn0w wrote:i chose Finland because everything is great about it, history, culture , people etc.
Have you already been to Finland, or is that just what you imagine?

People here are very different from anyone you know.

And you didn't mention that the weather is great, a proper winter in Helsinki is:
Half a meter of snow for half a year.
All sidewalks are covered with several cm of ice, so everywhere you walk outside you walk on ice (or snow).
Constant -20 °C night and day for one month.
Currently is April, and the ice on the Baltic Sea is still so thick that many people walk and ski on it.
Only 5 hours between sunrise and sunset at the end of December in Helsinki (no day at all in Northern Finland).

Finland is a nice and beautiful country, but it might be very different from what you expect.
desertsn0w wrote:I've 2 quesions here
1-will Finns accept me? I'm middle eastern Arab with dark white color.
Some light racism exists (like in all countries), but overall you shouldn't have too many problems with that.

And over 2‰ of all people living in Finland are (black) refugees from Somalia, so it is quite normal at least in Helsinki to see many non-white people.
desertsn0w wrote:2-what's the easiest way to immigrate to Finland (other than marrying a native Finnish
Studying.

You must get accepted at a Finnish university, and have € 6720 per year on your bank account.
desertsn0w wrote:because i don't think Finnish guys are interested in other races specially Arabs)
That is a stereotype that is not true.

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Re: Arab girl want to immigrate to Finland

Post by rinso » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:15 pm

1 - Indeed studying is the most logical solution.
2 - I don't think you should worry to much. You might get the silent treatment but that happens to all non lingo foreigners.

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Re: Arab girl want to immigrate to Finland

Post by Upphew » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:16 pm

desertsn0w wrote:im new here so excuse me if I made a mistake.
We'll see... :) If you have read this forum, you might have noticed this isn't the best place to get encouragement and acceptance, if your plans have holes they will be pointed out.
desertsn0w wrote:I'm 16 years old in high school (engineer student) and i want to move to finalnd
when I turn 18 years old (and of course when i finish high school)
So most likely you are going to continue your studies here.
desertsn0w wrote:I speak Arabic, Farsi, Hebrew, Esperanto and English fluently
and learning Swedish, Russian and Finnish
Okay, you got some language learning skills... you'll need 'em to learn Finnish

desertsn0w wrote:i chose Finland because everything is great about it, history, culture , people etc.
Wrong! You chose Finland because what you think you know about it. That may or may not correlate with the reality. You shall get a healthy dose of realism if you stay a while with this forum.

desertsn0w wrote:I've 2 quesions here
1-will Finns accept me? I'm middle eastern Arab with dark white color.
2-what's the easiest way to immigrate to Finland (other than marrying a native Finnish because i don't think Finnish guys are interested in other races specially Arabs)
1) strong maybe, with a negative undertone
2) work, study, family, pick one. Oh, you already crossed over the third. Work or study. And in your case most likely study. If you happen to be EU citizen then work might be possibility too, but I wouldn't hold my breath while job hunting.
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Re: Arab girl want to immigrate to Finland

Post by Upphew » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:22 pm

desertsn0w wrote:i don't think Finnish guys are interested in other races specially Arabs
I don't think it is Arab thing that cools down the interest, more likely it is the Muslim thing. Hijabs, burkhas and bossy relatives might cool things down more than ethnicity.
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Re: Arab girl want to immigrate to Finland

Post by Rip » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:50 pm

Aiming to become a student here seems like an obvious way to start. In englsh one can (general rule, with some exceptions) at polytechnic level or at master course level in university. Residence permit shouts be fairly easy to get you get admitted to a school and have the required funds foe living (tuition is typically free). Employment opportunities after graduation depend on what you studied and where and tour language skills.

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Re: Arab girl want to immigrate to Finland

Post by CH » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:58 pm

If you are thinking about moving after high school, definitely go through the studying route. Just a high school diploma will get you absolutely nothing here jobwise.

Another way, if you just want to check out what it's like living here, is to come here as a high school exchange student and live here for a year in a Finnish family and study in a Finnish high school.

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Re: Arab girl want to immigrate to Finland

Post by goldfire » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:04 am

Nobody cares if you are an arab or not. You will face the same amount of differential treatment as every immigrant faces in every country.
(perhaps not as cruel as many middle eastern countries treat people from south east asia and africa)

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Re: Arab girl want to immigrate to Finland

Post by Adrian42 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:26 am

goldfire wrote:Nobody cares if you are an arab or not. You will face the same amount of differential treatment as every immigrant faces in every country.
That's as wrong as can be.

I as a white German tend to be treated much better in Finland than a Finnish citizen who came as a refugee from Somalia.

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Re: Arab girl want to immigrate to Finland

Post by Rip » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:23 pm

Adrian42 wrote: a Finnish citizen who came as a refugee from Somalia.
I bit doubt you know any, as there is so very few of them (a Somalian that came as an actual refugee) and now has a Finnish citizenship.

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Re: Arab girl want to immigrate to Finland

Post by Pursuivant » Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:19 pm

desertsn0w wrote: 1-will Finns accept me? I'm middle eastern Arab with dark white color.
Its more the problem that arabs do not accept Finland.
2-what's the easiest way to immigrate to Finland (other than marrying a native Finnish because i don't think Finnish guys are interested in other races specially Arabs)
The problem is, theres no free arab women so that kind of makes it a moot question. I think all East Mediterranean must propagate by cloning, as there is no women - only the hairy men running after Finnish women. And a wife home an 10 children also, but the girls get sent post package back home to marry some hairy man with long beard. Or maybe there is a free arab woman, but you have a big hairy man to worry about, father, brother, cousin and a big sword they chop the head off with... and then the package is all wrapped up so there is no chance to inspect the merchandise so it can be a hairy man also - that explains why its all bundled up. So its not there would be no interest, there is no women, and its too much trouble. :lol:

Easiest way is to acquire a place to study. Of course, you have to get a permission from your father and he sends 10 cousins to watch your honor so that no Finnish guys will be interested.
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Re: Arab girl want to immigrate to Finland

Post by desertsn0w » Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:42 pm

Pursuivant wrote:
desertsn0w wrote: 1-will Finns accept me? I'm middle eastern Arab with dark white color.
Its more the problem that arabs do not accept Finland.
2-what's the easiest way to immigrate to Finland (other than marrying a native Finnish because i don't think Finnish guys are interested in other races specially Arabs)
The problem is, theres no free arab women so that kind of makes it a moot question. I think all East Mediterranean must propagate by cloning, as there is no women - only the hairy men running after Finnish women. And a wife home an 10 children also, but the girls get sent post package back home to marry some hairy man with long beard. Or maybe there is a free arab woman, but you have a big hairy man to worry about, father, brother, cousin and a big sword they chop the head off with... and then the package is all wrapped up so there is no chance to inspect the merchandise so it can be a hairy man also - that explains why its all bundled up. So its not there would be no interest, there is no women, and its too much trouble. :lol:

Easiest way is to acquire a place to study. Of course, you have to get a permission from your father and he sends 10 cousins to watch your honor so that no Finnish guys will be interested.

oh sh** you must be an arab lol
what you're saying doesn't make sense at all. you're a retard and someone like you shouldn't really answer quesions.
i'm waisting my time in bull**** with someone ignorant like you. you must still be living the cave age

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Re: Arab girl want to immigrate to Finland

Post by bm50 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:48 pm

desertsn0w wrote:hello everyone,
how's everyone doing?

im new here so excuse me if I made a mistake.

I'm 16 years old in high school (engineer student) and i want to move to finalnd
when I turn 18 years old (and of course when i finish high school)

I speak Arabic, Farsi, Hebrew, Esperanto and English fluently
and learning Swedish, Russian and Finnish


i chose Finland because everything is great about it, history, culture , people etc.

I've 2 quesions here
1-will Finns accept me? I'm middle eastern Arab with dark white color.
2-what's the easiest way to immigrate to Finland (other than marrying a native Finnish because i don't think Finnish guys are interested in other races specially Arabs)

that's all for now, thanks!!!


EDIT,,,
im Atheist and born Atheist so i don't wear the shi**y garbage on my head and stuff like that
Yes you speak many languages great, so why not Sweden then? Many hairy men there or UK which has even more! And no worries about being accepted! :?

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Re: Arab girl want to immigrate to Finland

Post by Deni85 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:41 pm

Adrian42 wrote:
goldfire wrote:Nobody cares if you are an arab or not. You will face the same amount of differential treatment as every immigrant faces in every country.
That's as wrong as can be.

I as a white German tend to be treated much better in Finland than a Finnish citizen who came as a refugee from Somalia.
I also disagree with goldfire. I never faced any differential treatment in Finland. Even though I am white, I think it has nothing to do with skin color, but the way some immigrants behave. Some come from different cultures and many of them have no good manners at all. It is very annoying when I try to exit from the metro and people are pushing to come inside. Or when I'm in a hurry and walk on the escalator and there is always somebody blocking the way. I know some Finns do that, there are people without manners everywhere but living in Finland for so many years I can see that people from some cultures just can't behave. When I was studying Finnish it was like a nightmare. It wasn't because of the language. But my classmates (mostly Somalis) just couldn't sit in the class for 2 hours without having to answer the phone all the time and disturb the class. Of course I can't accept people who behave like this.

On the other hand, I have a friend who is from South America and has black skin color. He learned the language very fast and now has a good job . He has a lot of Finnish friends and he told me he never had any problems because he is an immigrant.
desertsn0w wrote:will Finns accept me?
It depends on you. I'm sure if you learn the language, show what you can offer to Finland and have good manners you will be accepted.

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Re: Arab girl want to immigrate to Finland

Post by desertsn0w » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:37 pm

Deni85 wrote:
Adrian42 wrote:
goldfire wrote:Nobody cares if you are an arab or not. You will face the same amount of differential treatment as every immigrant faces in every country.
That's as wrong as can be.

I as a white German tend to be treated much better in Finland than a Finnish citizen who came as a refugee from Somalia.
I also disagree with goldfire. I never faced any differential treatment in Finland. Even though I am white, I think it has nothing to do with skin color, but the way some immigrants behave. Some come from different cultures and many of them have no good manners at all. It is very annoying when I try to exit from the metro and people are pushing to come inside. Or when I'm in a hurry and walk on the escalator and there is always somebody blocking the way. I know some Finns do that, there are people without manners everywhere but living in Finland for so many years I can see that people from some cultures just can't behave. When I was studying Finnish it was like a nightmare. It wasn't because of the language. But my classmates (mostly Somalis) just couldn't sit in the class for 2 hours without having to answer the phone all the time and disturb the class. Of course I can't accept people who behave like this.

On the other hand, I have a friend who is from South America and has black skin color. He learned the language very fast and now has a good job . He has a lot of Finnish friends and he told me he never had any problems because he is an immigrant.
desertsn0w wrote:will Finns accept me?
It depends on you. I'm sure if you learn the language, show what you can offer to Finland and have good manners you will be accepted.
that's a good answer thanks!
:)


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