Residence Permit Card.

[What can I say]

Hi everyone,
I recently moved to Finland to live with my Finnish wife and I applied for a Resident Permit to live here but unfortunately the permit card is pending to be issued as usual and on the other hand I got a paper from the local police precinct at Kirkkonummi which allows me to stay here legally, but for some bizarre reason the Migri office are not giving me any certain answer not to mention that my visa validity has expired but I did ask from the police before it expires and they said it is Okay to stay here in Finland until your RPC is issued but the problem is I am a business manager at GTI Group and I have to attend some of meetings abroad every now and then but I have missed many of the meetings now that my visa is expired and having a police papers which says it is not valid to fly abroad I am locked in Finland, though I have done some of the meeting by Skyping which sucks, and also I am spending a fortune being here Okay money is not an object as long as I am working at GTI group company and they're not firing me, but somehow it is also very difficult to be stucked in one country while I have been to 43 countries so far I am a designer freak and sorry to say this but I just cannot have something which is not designer like Gucci or EM or GA ...etc and wherever I go in Finland and ask about new models of designer cloth or fragrance all I get from the sales person is OH sorry sir we get the new models 6 month after other countries I am like O_o but that is another story, but being a business manager does not guarantee your position unless you're performing the job perfectly cuz when it comes to effort on how you handle the job and how have you been doing it none of the reasons or feeling I have mentioned matters when the employee is not performing his/her job according to the company's policy!

So my questions are below:
If I fly to Latvia for a meeting which I have to! because I got a Warning email from my company's management and my schengen visa has expired and all I have is a paper from the police which allows me to stay in Finland legally so am I gonna get busted in Latvia if they asked about my passport and would it affect my chance of getting the RP?

And how long it takes EXACTLY to get the RP knowing that my wife is a student and she is unemployed and would it also affect on the waiting process? I am actually helping her to decrease the help that she is getting from the government and will make it over soon but it is not gonna happen in one night.

Many thanks in advance for answering
Best regards
And happy first of May!

[Pursuivant]

So why didn't you apply for the residence permit from your own country as you are supposed to do, if Gucci was so important? The Finnish bureucracy has a time dilation the closer you get to Finland, so the "exactly" date is about a bizarre question as you can have. It takes as long as it takes - the average for a marriage permit was 119 days in 2012. If you had some "think" in between and have missing papers you can double that time. Kirkkonummi shouldn't be as bad - if you submitted the paperwork electronically you can follow your case on the migri pages. Now that you have run out of your Schengen visa, you are stuck - if you go to Latvia - if they let you on the airplane from Finland in the first place - and get busted its back to Gucci-land and a ban to re-enter Schengen.

[rinso]

Even with the police paper that you're allowed to stay in Finland, you will have problems entering a plane.
Airlines are liable if the transport somebody without proper papers.
So no RP or visa is no boarding pass.

[What can I say]

So why didn't you apply for the residence permit from your own country as you are supposed to do, if Gucci was so important? The Finnish bureucracy has a time dilation the closer you get to Finland, so the "exactly" date is about a bizarre question as you can have. It takes as long as it takes - the average for a marriage permit was 119 days in 2012. If you had some "think" in between and have missing papers you can double that time. Kirkkonummi shouldn't be as bad - if you submitted the paperwork electronically you can follow your case on the migri pages. Now that you have run out of your Schengen visa, you are stuck - if you go to Latvia - if they let you on the airplane from Finland in the first place - and get busted its back to Gucci-land and a ban to re-enter Schengen.

First of all, there is no Finnish embassy in my country!
Secondly, I am not asking about the Finnish "bureaucracy" and with all do my respect I'd suggest you go and have a look at "bureaucracy" definition once again... and regarding the bizarre reason: I just meant that they won't answer any of your questions no matter what you ask the answer is we don't know! but next time I have to be more specific cuz using bizarre in a subject it refers to the whole situation being unresponsive.
Thirdly, I have no missing papers and if it wasn't out of love I could have done the paperwork at some neighbouring country or any country around the globe where I can have the Finnish Embassy to issue the RPC, but when there is true love you don't care about consequences or so many things that actually will destroy your life and career, but the good thing is I have best friends and huge saving of money needless to say I am a professional DDE and can speak 5 language fluently and have many certificate as an Automotive expert and so far I think Fins are the nicest people simply you gotta love them so it shouldn't be that difficult to get a job.... as for the banning decision I am rather surprised how did you came up with such a decision? I am a member of (German,Sweden,Romanian,US) chamber of commerce I get an Invitation letter almost every week to attend some exhibition or Automotive show , and this is my second passport and it has around 13 Visa and approximately 61 one stamp and I haven't violated any rules anywhere in Schengen zone and never will! as for staying over the period of granted Schengen visa date you have to pay 50 Euro per day which is not an object for me.
At last, thanks anyway.

[Rip]

Even with the police paper that you're allowed to stay in Finland, you will have problems entering a plane.
Airlines are liable if the transport somebody without proper papers.
So no RP or visa is no boarding pass.

Latvia is Schengen country, so almost certainly he'd get through boarding in this end without problem (try yourself with preprinted boarding pass, they will not do an ID check of any kind for intra-Schengen travel). There is no formal passport control at the other side either, but if the police there happen to stop him and ask for passport, then I don't know how bad things would be. He won't break any Finnish law by flying out of here with his passport, but would the Latvian authorities be nice enough to let him return to Finland if they find him there with an expired visa?

knowing that my wife is a student and she is unemployed and would it also affect on the waiting process?

If she is a Finnish citizen, then it should not have an effect.

[Pursuivant]

needless to say I am a professional DDE

Douchebag de excellence? Yes, figured that much out.

[Adrian42]

Even with the police paper that you're allowed to stay in Finland, you will have problems entering a plane.
Airlines are liable if the transport somebody without proper papers.
So no RP or visa is no boarding pass.

Latvia is Schengen country, so almost certainly he'd get through boarding in this end without problem (try yourself with preprinted boarding pass, they will not do an ID check of any kind for intra-Schengen travel).

I actually have my passport in the pocket for trying exactly that, and on most flights inside the Schengen area I am asked for it both at the baggage drop and when boarding.

Whether they would check for a residence permit is a different question.

There is no formal passport control at the other side either, but if the police there happen to stop him and ask for passport, then I don't know how bad things would be. He won't break any Finnish law by flying out of here with his passport, but would the Latvian authorities be nice enough to let him return to Finland if they find him there with an expired visa?

And how would his entry in the Schengen database look like after such an incident?

[Flossy1978]

You just sound like a snob. So what if you've done all of that stuff? Does it make you special? Being a nurse, school teacher, elderly carer.... Now those are some 'special' people. Not people like you who are shallow, needing to wear fancy smanchy clothes and showoff.

You speak how many languages? Well, sorry to tell you mate, your English f*cking sucks. Ever heard of a 'fullstop'? And again, sorry to tell you, there are plenty of people in Finland speaking just as many languages as you. My child is only 8 years old and speaks/writes both Finnish and English fluently and is learning Mandarin Chinese.... Whoop-dido....

For someone who claims to be some big wig in some company and all that.... You most certainly didn't have the brains to fore-think the situation you've gotten yourself in, did you?

Fins don't like showoffs.

Too bad so sad about your visa situation. Now you just wait just like the rest of the foreigners who come here and do the same stupid thing, rather than apply outside of the country. A word to the wise, don't bother annoying immigration about your status... It'll only put you further back in the pack.

[What can I say]

Latvia is Schengen country, so almost certainly he'd get through boarding in this end without problem (try yourself with preprinted boarding pass, they will not do an ID check of any kind for intra-Schengen travel). There is no formal passport control at the other side either, but if the police there happen to stop him and ask for passport, then I don't know how bad things would be. He won't break any Finnish law by flying out of here with his passport, but would the Latvian authorities be nice enough to let him return to Finland if they find him there with an expired visa?

Thank you so much for your reply, I couldn't agree with you more and actually I did try France and Germany and I just showed the ticket and nobody asked me about the passport.

And my wife is Finnish citizen and I am crazy about her.

[What can I say]

needless to say I am a professional DDE

Douchebag de excellence? Yes, figured that much out.

DDE stand for : Don't Dare Egotistical .. now it suits you better! lmao ...BTW, you are improving dude.

Actually so just you know! cuz I'm sure others do know what does it stand for, DDE stand for Directional Drilling Engineer and have worked at weatherford for 3 years! and for those who actually think it is because I am trying to show off? with all do my respect but simply they can go and .... Beep!

It is not about showing off on the contrary we're all grown up here, it is all about serving the society and hope for the best and being faithful to the country that you're living in.