angio for poor people or sponser the patient

[xyzxyz]

hi,
Any body know about the angio or company of Europe that sponsor the

1. patient medicine outside the Europe
2. OR Spenser the education expense of a student in Finland or outside the Finland

Regards,

[Rosamunda]

I think you mean NGO (non-government organisation). You mean a charity like the Red Cross?

[xyzxyz]

YES I MEANS THE SAME THING PLEASE

[Pursuivant]

So who are you looking this for?
- if you are a non-Eu student you have a health insurance
- if you are an EU or Finnish resident you have YTHS

Otherwise there is these "paperless clinics"

[xyzxyz]

I sent email to European Medicines Agency for medicines, i hope they will reply but patient is in asia , not here , she is my relative, i dont know they will help her or not as she is out of finland.


secondly, i want to contact to this NGO, may be they will help to give loan to the student want to study in private college of finland. cost 3000/-er

Espoo traditional association of Aurora Association's purpose is to promote, preserve and cherish the tradition and community work in Espoo, Finland. The Association is an independent non-governmental organization and is open to all. The association promotes its objectives in co-operation with other organizations eg. the following practical measures:
collects and stores the Espoo-related materials on local history and traditional knowledge
publish Espoo, Finland-related articles, books, and other publications
organize seminars, lectures and training sessions and exhibitions

[jahasjahas]

They are a historical association. They collect stories and old photographs of Espoo. They will not give you money.

Which "private college" are you talking about?

[xyzxyz]

it is http://www.helbus.fi ..its fee is 3000 eu and they give admission without any entrance exam.

[jahasjahas]

Oh, I hadn't even heard of them before. (That's not necessarily a good sign.)

There are no "private universities" in Finnish university legislation, so they have no official status. The degree you get will have no official status either, and there's no guarantee anyone will accept it when you want to do a real bachelor's or master's degree. It also seems like studying there won't make you a "student" from the point of view of the Finnish system - what kind of residence permit do you have?

[AldenG]

It looks to be (based on address and names) a spin-off from Markkinointi-instituuti, which does have name and history and reputation -- but still in that non-academic niche jahasjahas describes. Historically MI has been a good career enhancer within Finland for people whose employers valued specific business-enhancing skills over MBA-type prestige and generalism. Perhaps it was the cream of that crop.

That says little to nothing good or bad about the value of a Helbus degree in an international context. But MI would have skin in the game, reputation/credibility to lose if Helbus turned out to be lousy. I would at least assume good intentions but also an obvious primacy of the profit motive in a way you wouldn't find in a regular university, where academic values would always prevail in the end. I would also assume significant-to-predominant overlap of instructors between Helbus and MI.

[xyzxyz]

i am here for 3 months on visit visa ...i gave other universities test but there is much competition so i have in mind that if i could not get admission in that universities then i will get there in helbus .....

[jahasjahas]

they give admission without any entrance exam.

"HELBUS admissions are based on essay questions and interviews gauging your motivation, strengths, future goals and plans. You do not need formal English language testing for your application, but you should demonstrate sufficient English skills in the application form. Please note that sufficient English skills are an absolute necessity to be able to take part in the courses effectively."
source: How to apply?

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It also seems like studying there won't make you a "student" from the point of view of the Finnish system

I tried to research this. Migri's site says:
"In order to be granted a residence permit for studies, you must have a study place at a Finnish educational institution and your studies must lead to an occupation or degree. Residence permits can be granted for other than studies leading to an occupation or degree only for justified reasons."

So I guess your chances depend on whether Helbus's degree counts as a "degree".

[xyzxyz]

yes that is true........i attended HESLAB opening seminar ....they were trying to convince that it is a degree, they are sending me email every other day to apply this program...


what abt local NGO ....do u have idea which one is that of ...please

[rinso]

they were trying to convince that it is a degree, they are sending me email every other day to apply this program...

In most of the normal universities you have to compete to get a place. (importance of a good admission test)
When they are eager to get you, you could question their position and market value. (reason for a RP?)

[Rip]

So I guess your chances depend on whether Helbus's degree counts as a "degree".

I'd ask from migri directly. I have no idea what is their actual teaching quality, but it looks their official status is the same as a "diploma" I could design myself, have printed, and sell for a fee.

(in Finnish: http://www.taloussanomat.fi/kotimaa/201 ... 1228060/12 )