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Common Law wife

Post by Y77 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:10 pm

On the Migri site,in regard to the length of time necessary to get citizenship it says:
Residence period


for the last five years without interruption (continuous period of residence) or
for a total of seven years after you reached the age of 15 (accumulated period of residence). Of these seven years, you must have lived in Finland for the past two years without interruption.
A shorter period of residence is sufficient in certain cases

You have a Finnish spouse

If your spouse is a Finnish citizen, it is enough that you have lived in Finland
for the last four years without interruption (continuous period of residence) or
for a total of six years after you reached the age of 15. Of these six years, you must have lived in Finland for the past two years without interruption (accumulated period of residence).
In addition, you must live with your spouse, and must have done so for at least three years. If your spouse is deceased but he or she was a citizen of Finland, you must have lived with him or her for at least three years before his or her death.

‘Spouse’ refers to a husband, wife, common-law husband or wife, and persons living in a registered relationship.
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Does that means that if I've been living with my girlfriend(finnish)for the last 4 years,we are common laws?Even if not married?



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Re: Common Law wife

Post by 007 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:38 pm

Y77 wrote:
Does that means that if I've been living with my girlfriend(finnish)for the last 4 years,we are common laws?Even if not married?
common-law husband or wife = avopuoliso, couple who live together. avopuoliso is not aviopuoliso (married couple). marriage is marriage. extra laws are applicable to married people, mainly inheritence, adoption etc. Whether 4 years of living together quality you for citizenship, well it should provided that you fulfill other requirements such as 'A' permit for the past 4 years among others.
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Re: Common Law wife

Post by cors187 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:12 pm

Law means legal,documented by common law, which is a registered event.
You dont qualify, but this is finland and im an english speaker.

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Re: Common Law wife

Post by Rip » Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:53 pm

cors187 wrote:Law means legal,documented by common law, which is a registered event.
There is no register for those except that the population register shows them living in the same house or flat. So I guess the OP should qualify.
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Re: Common Law wife

Post by Adrian42 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:54 pm

Y77 wrote:‘Spouse’ refers to a husband, wife, common-law husband or wife, and persons living in a registered relationship.
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Does that means that if I've been living with my girlfriend(finnish)for the last 4 years,we are common laws?Even if not married?
Yes.

"common-law" a bad translation, the Finnish and Swedish versions of the Migri page make it clearer.

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Re: Common Law wife

Post by tjawatts » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:08 pm

Would be a bit hard to be considered a common law wife under Finnish law given that it is a civil law system...

But they mean cohabiting, nothing registered just that you have been living together in a relationship.

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Re: Common Law wife

Post by Pursuivant » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:24 pm

"common-law" a bad translation,
Maybe they should just say "living in sin" :?:

Anyways, you need "proof" which is basically is you have had the same address in maistraatti... kids might be another giveaway.

Usually though this is more of an issue thats believed as a "statement".
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Re: Common Law wife

Post by jahasjahas » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:51 pm

"Domestic partner(ship)" might be a better translation, but I guess common law husband/wife is used more often.

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Re: Common Law wife

Post by Lord of Manchester » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:33 pm

I'm sorry if this sounds negative but as a British born resident of Finland (twenty years) you will not get citizenship without a successful written and spoken Finnish language test, no matter what anyone tells you, I speak from experience !

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Re: Common Law wife

Post by Adrian42 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:56 pm

Lord of Manchester wrote:I'm sorry if this sounds negative but as a British born resident of Finland (twenty years) you will not get citizenship without a successful written and spoken Finnish language test, no matter what anyone tells you, I speak from experience !
If you do not even pass a Finnish test at B1 level after 20 years in Finland that is your fault, and you cannot complain that you won't get citizenship when you refuse to learn the local language.

It is irrelevant for the discussion here, since language and residence period are two completely different requirements from the list of requirements that all have to be fulfilled for acquiring citizenship.

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Re: Common Law wife

Post by Y77 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:19 pm

Lord of Manchester wrote:I'm sorry if this sounds negative but as a British born resident of Finland (twenty years) you will not get citizenship without a successful written and spoken Finnish language test, no matter what anyone tells you, I speak from experience !
exactly,that's why I'm getting ready for the level 3 Yleiset kielitutkinnot required for Citizenship. If I fail that I'll move to a council estate in Glasgow and apply for British citizenship,the requirement there is that you must have lived at least 4 years with Common Lowlife ahahahahahah! :lol:

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Re: Common Law wife

Post by interleukin » Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:57 pm

Or you learn Swedish, MUCH easier than Finnish for an English speaker.
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Re: Common Law wife

Post by Y77 » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:00 am

interleukin wrote:Or you learn Swedish, MUCH easier than Finnish for an English speaker.
yes but if I were to do that I would endorse the already widespread inferiority complex that Finns feel against Sweden and also I don't approve of Swedish being an official language in Finland,it might be easier to learn but the easy way out is not always the right solution.

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Re: Common Law wife

Post by interleukin » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:31 am

Well how much Y77 approves of Swedish or not is pretty irrelevant, the big question is how important that citizenship is for the OP.
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Re: Common Law wife

Post by jahasjahas » Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:28 pm

interleukin wrote:Well how much Y77 approves of Swedish or not is pretty irrelevant, the big question is how important that citizenship is for the OP.
...for the OP who is Y77?


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