Finnish Companies List

[AsaSmith]

I'm looking to send some prospective CV's out to as many multinational Finnish companies as I can to attempt to harness my mother tongue (English)

Whilst at the job center I asked if there was a list of Finnish businesses produced by the government but the representative told me there was no such thing available so my question is, is it possible to find a complete list of businesses that operate in Finland and for free or for a very mall amount of cash? Or possibly a list of multinational businesses within Finland?

Any help would be most appreciated, I have found these website during my searches:

http://www.ytj.fi/english/yrityshaku.as ... elikoodi=3

https://virre.prh.fi/portal/dt?action=c ... der=layout

They allows me to do free searches but its not exactly what I was after as the criteria for searching doesn't really fit my needs, any advice is welcomed

[Adrian42]

I'm looking to send some prospective CV's out to as many multinational Finnish companies as I can to attempt to harness my mother tongue (English)

That's a stupid idea.

Spamming random companies with your CV won't bring you a job.

So far you seem to only be thinking of your major weakness (not speaking Finnish), but that's not enough:
An average Finn speaks Finnish and English fluently, but in the current economic situation he might have problems finding a job unless his education is brings him an advantage.
And even when the job is wiping the floor and cleaning the toilet you have the disadvantage of not speaking Finnish (it is easier for the company when the employee can read the label of the toilet cleaner).
What can you offer to a company? What university degree or other education do you have?

The trick in finding a job is to find a job offer where you can convince the company that you are the best among the many applicants.

Or possibly a list of multinational businesses within Finland?

That's a pretty tricky question, that cannot really be answered:
Even Finnish companies whose 50 employees are spread over 4 countries in 3 continents have that usually split up into 4-6 separate companies (at least one per country).
And Intel Finland Oy is technically an own company.

[AsaSmith]

Adrian, prospective CV sending is common place in Britain and it yields jobs, my CV can vouch for that. Its not "spamming" as each covering letter and CV would be tailored to the company in question. Many jobs get filled before they hit the job market and thats what I intend to try and target. I know what my strengths and disadvantages are and I'm aware that many Finnish people speak English well but many international companies seek natural English speakers for building business relations, harboring deals etc in non-Finnish markets.

I take on board your comment about the international businesses as its a valid point, I presume I would be after the umbrella company in that case if there is one. Either way a starting point of some businesses that are known or registered as multinational would be some help to me.

[Adrian42]

prospective CV sending is common place in Britain and it yields jobs, my CV can vouch for that.

People moving to another country often make the mistake of assuming that things in that country work like in their home country.

Just like e.g. in countries where education is expensive a career without a university degree is common, while in Finland it often looks bad on a CV when an applicant has only a Bachelors degree.

but many international companies seek natural English speakers for building business relations, harboring deals etc in non-Finnish markets.

Since you know for sure that many international Finnish companies are desperately looking for native English speakers, can you make a list of all such companies you know? That will surely result in a job for you...

It is also a bit arrogant to assume English would always be relevant for non-Finnish markets. Finland exports more to Russia and China than to all English-speaking countries combined, and Russian and Mandarin are actually languages not many FInns are speaking.

Either way a starting point of some businesses that are known or registered as multinational would be some help to me.

There is no such thing as a registered multinational company. You are asking for a "Finnish company that owns at least X% of a company in another country." (with 10, 50 and 100 being common values for X). And that information is for a privately owned Finnish company not necessarily publicly available.

And when you talk about "building business relations" that's something completely different - it is perfectly normal for a purely Finnish company to have customers all over Europe without having and people or subsidiaries in any other country.

[AsaSmith]

Adrian, sod it, ill bite. I've read some of your other comments on the forum and in all honesty there mightily unhelpful and generally, a rather self indulgent stab at someone on the thread. For your information I've worked at companies that have been the some of the best in their sector plus you have absolutely no idea what I do, maybe I'm a former CEO, a sales guru or an IT technician?

Just like e.g. in countries where education is expensive a career without a university degree is common, while in Finland it often looks bad on a CV when an applicant has only a Bachelors degree.

Your example is absolutely nothing like the situation of getting your CV in to the hands of the right people, you think thats a bad idea right? My Finnish girlfriend did exactly what I have stated I'll do, information willing, and she's received multiple job offers, and guess what, she hasn't completed university and she has no work experience. Do you need to sit down?

It is also a bit arrogant to assume English would always be relevant for non-Finnish markets

I didn't assume English would always be relevant for non-Finnish markets, you made that up yourself. So companies from Russia and China who deal with Finnish companies don't speak English at all in international commerce? Some will, some wont. I'd like to find a company that can use English in those markets or the US, British, Australian, Canadian or any other English speaking market whether its mother tongue or a second language.

Finland exports more to Russia and China than to all English-speaking countries combined, and Russian and Mandarin are actually languages not many FInns are speaking.

So how do these people manage to do business if hardly anyone in Finland speaks Russian or Mandarin/Cantonese? My presumption from your comment would be, English?

There is no such thing as a registered multinational company

There are such things as registered multinational companies this web address offers services to find them but as far as my research goes this is for European states only http://www.prh.fi/en/kaupparekisteri/ti ... t/ebr.html but of course this is at a cost and I'm not aware as to how much that might be.

You are asking for a "Finnish company that owns at least X% of a company in another country." (with 10, 50 and 100 being common values for X). And that information is for a privately owned Finnish company not necessarily publicly available.

And no I'm not asking if a Finnish company owns X amount of stock in another company abroad. I'm merely asking for multinational companies ie they have branches of their business in more than one country as, in general, they are larger businesses who deal with many different markets where my skills would be better suited and there would be more of an opportunity to speak another language, namely English.

when you talk about "building business relations" that's something completely different - it is perfectly normal for a purely Finnish company to have customers all over Europe without having and people or subsidiaries in any other country.

Yes thats one thing we can agree on, some purely based Finnish companies will have customers all over Europe, I have no doubt thats the case. For me to find out where they sell to would be even more difficult than to find out which companies are multinational wouldn't you agree? Sales people have customer lists that they use, treasure and are worth shed loads of cash to them and the company they work for. Generally sales folk wont want to tell anyone else who there selling to so how do you suppose I find out which Finnish companies are trading where?

Adrian, if you'd like to post some help to my points instead of attempting to sound like you know what your talking about in an attempt at self gratification that would be great. If you decide to post back some unhelpful drivel with the idea of being inflammatory or just end up posting some pointless tosh that isn't at all what the OP (me) asked for I kindly ask you to make your own thread and start posting in there as I don't have the time to spend dissecting your argumentative comments and giving them the time of day quite frankly.

I look forward to receiving something or substance, or nothing at all

[Adrian42]

It is also a bit arrogant to assume English would always be relevant for non-Finnish markets

I didn't assume English would always be relevant for non-Finnish markets, you made that up yourself. So companies from Russia and China who deal with Finnish companies don't speak English at all in international commerce? Some will, some wont. I'd like to find a company that can use English in those markets or the US, British, Australian, Canadian or any other English speaking market whether its mother tongue or a second language.

But the advantage of a native British speaker compared to the nearly perfect English many Finns speak is zero when doing business with the US.

Finland exports more to Russia and China than to all English-speaking countries combined, and Russian and Mandarin are actually languages not many FInns are speaking.

So how do these people manage to do business if hardly anyone in Finland speaks Russian or Mandarin/Cantonese? My presumption from your comment would be, English?

Sometime English, more often Russian resp. Mandarin.

There is no such thing as a registered multinational company

There are such things as registered multinational companies this web address offers services to find them but as far as my research goes this is for European states only http://www.prh.fi/en/kaupparekisteri/ti ... t/ebr.html but of course this is at a cost and I'm not aware as to how much that might be.

This is just a search engine over national business registers.

It will tell you neither who owns Intel Finland Oy, nor whether this company owns companies in other countries.

Intel is a huge company that is traded at the stock market, but for an average company whose shares are not publically traded the information you are looking for is simply nothing a company has to publicly disclose.

You are asking for a "Finnish company that owns at least X% of a company in another country." (with 10, 50 and 100 being common values for X). And that information is for a privately owned Finnish company not necessarily publicly available.

And no I'm not asking if a Finnish company owns X amount of stock in another company abroad. I'm merely asking for multinational companies ie they have branches of their business in more than one country as, in general, they are larger businesses who deal with many different markets where my skills would be better suited and there would be more of an opportunity to speak another language, namely English.

You still miss the point that these branches are usually separate legal entities.

when you talk about "building business relations" that's something completely different - it is perfectly normal for a purely Finnish company to have customers all over Europe without having and people or subsidiaries in any other country.

Yes thats one thing we can agree on, some purely based Finnish companies will have customers all over Europe, I have no doubt thats the case. For me to find out where they sell to would be even more difficult than to find out which companies are multinational wouldn't you agree? Sales people have customer lists that they use, treasure and are worth shed loads of cash to them and the company they work for.

As I already tried to explain, it is not easily possible to figure out whether a random company in Finland has subsidaries in other countries. Starting with problems like that these companies might have different names, or that different companies in different countries might share the same name just by chance.

It was you who wrote

maybe I'm a former CEO, a sales guru or an IT technician?

If you actually have special experience in some area where you have been CEO, sales guru, IT technician, or whatever, in the UK, then you should be able to find many Finnish companies that sell in that area all over Europe.

I definitely know in my specific field what the relevant Trade Shows are, and could check online which Finnish companies had exhibitions there.

Generally sales folk wont want to tell anyone else who there selling to so how do you suppose I find out which Finnish companies are trading where?

Find out what companies exist in Finland in your area of special expertise.
If they have job offers on their webpage, check what languages are required from applicants.
If they don't have job offers on their webpage, check whether they have an English language version of their webpage.

[AsaSmith]

Thank you for a more constructive response Adrian its most appreciated. From my experience Finnish people are very good at speaking English but whether a larger majority are capable of mission critical business talk in English I'm not so sure. Also the field of expertise would be quite English specific in one of my possible lines of work.

I understand your point about separate legal entities but most companies are held within an umbrella company or a holding company. Again whether these are easily found or not is the point of my first post and a list of the said companies was my aim.

I definitely know in my specific field what the relevant Trade Shows are, and could check online which Finnish companies had exhibitions there.

How do trade fairs make a difference to my predicament? Maybe I'm missing something here? Do international companies do trade shows or something? (I'm not familiar with them)

Starting with problems like that these companies might have different names, or that different companies in different countries might share the same name just by chance.

That was the point of getting a list that was verified by an authorised organisation that deals with such a task to avoid this kind of mix up

This is just a search engine over national business registers.

It will tell you neither who owns Intel Finland Oy, nor whether this company owns companies in other countries.

I guess a good place to start would be this page:
http://www.prh.fi/en/kaupparekisteri/ti ... salto.html
and looking under "Information Entered Under Trade Register" That kind of information although not ideal would be a reasonable starting point for me to be able to research companies that might be relevant to my situation. Any idea if there is a free way to get that list? Are you aware if that information is readily available to the public from either the internet or an organisation based in Helsinki that I can visit?

If you actually have special experience in some area where you have been CEO, sales guru, IT technician, or whatever, in the UK, then you should be able to find many Finnish companies that sell in that area all over Europe.

How would you be able to find out if they sell internationally?

Find out what companies exist in Finland in your area of special expertise

How does one go about that in the quickest way possible? A government list of some kind? We have http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/ in the UK, any similar organisation in Finland your aware of?


Any help is appreciated

[AldenG]

Asa, it's truly a shame you can't see yourself with something approaching Finnish eyes. There might be ways, albeit not easy ones, for you to break into the Finnish job market, but your apparent absolute insistence on having everything on your own severely misguided terms (even assistance) is a kind of deafness and blindness that makes it clear you're not going to find those ways.

So you're really wasting your time and Adrian's if you're just going to try to refute everything that contradicts your misguided preconceptions. Just go ahead and send all those cold letters. Some people can only learn the hard way.

[Sami-Is-Boss]

Companies don't exhibit at trade fairs to find staff. You'll be able to do some 'networking' (God I hate that word) at them, but the focus of the exhibiting companies will be elsewhere...

[geek5354]

Not exactly designed for your purpose but since you're willing to pay, here is an online service for credit risk reports of companies in Finland with search criteria plus more:

https://www.asiakastieto.fi/en/avoimet/ ... tteri.html

The more you pay, the more complete the list is. Think of it as an investment to the Finnish economy.

[Adrian42]

Companies don't exhibit at trade fairs to find staff. You'll be able to do some 'networking' (God I hate that word) at them, but the focus of the exhibiting companies will be elsewhere...

You completely miss my point.

My point was about finding Finnish companies that are selling internationally in some specific area.

When a Finnish company exhibits at a trade show in another country, chances are they are doing business outside Finland.

I was not suggesting that Asa would go to this trade show and try to find a job there.

[Upphew]

Companies don't exhibit at trade fairs to find staff. You'll be able to do some 'networking' (God I hate that word) at them, but the focus of the exhibiting companies will be elsewhere...

One doesn't go to the trade show, but look for companies that were there. Or how many Finnish companies that operate only in Finland would be showing off in Germany? If the company is making its presence known abroad, then it might be more likely to hire from abroad. And if you happen to know something about the company and maybe the competition then you start to look like you would have some value for company...

[Cony]

In my searches, I found this link: http://www.finnpartnership.fi/www/en/ex ... /index.php

Yet, you may find what you're looking for by searching "Import-from-Finland" or "Export" key word. Make a phone call to Finnish Chamber of commerce and they may provide you a database or information.

One question: are you going to send a generic cv to all?

[AsaSmith]

Hi all and thanks for the replys

Asa, it's truly a shame you can't see yourself with something approaching Finnish eyes. There might be ways, albeit not easy ones, for you to break into the Finnish job market, but your apparent absolute insistence on having everything on your own severely misguided terms (even assistance) is a kind of deafness and blindness that makes it clear you're not going to find those ways.

So you're really wasting your time and Adrian's if you're just going to try to refute everything that contradicts your misguided preconceptions. Just go ahead and send all those cold letters. Some people can only learn the hard way.

I didn't refute, I asked for someone to share there knowledge if they possessed it and, I though in the original couple of posts Adrian was being rather cynical and offered no help in any way shape or form. Like I have expressed, I have first hand knowledge of people doing what I'm attempting and getting not just positive responses but multiple interviews. My girlfriend who's one of the people I mention is Finnish and the last time I checked she had Finnish eyes

I'm still doing what everybody else is doing, checking around for the jobs on the normal websites so as far as I see whether this works or not, its a shot to nothing, if I get a job fantastic, if I don't I've lost nothing but a very small amount of cash

Severely misguided!? Bit strong, but like mentioned I have people around me (more than one) that have done this before, who are Finnish, and succeeded when their CV's have nowhere near the experience I do so for the sake of 50 Euro, a week of typing and a train ticket posting a hundred or so CV's doesn't seem like a bad idea. Just out of curiosity how many people do you know that are doing what I'm doing? And an honest answer to an honest question, if the answer is nobody, am I the definitely misguided one?

Companies don't exhibit at trade fairs to find staff. You'll be able to do some 'networking' (God I hate that word) at them, but the focus of the exhibiting companies will be elsewhere...

You completely miss my point.

My point was about finding Finnish companies that are selling internationally in some specific area.

When a Finnish company exhibits at a trade show in another country, chances are they are doing business outside Finland.

I was not suggesting that Asa would go to this trade show and try to find a job there.

I understand where your coming from now Adrian but yes its not really relevant for me unless I happen to fly back to London and timed it right for a convention. Yes 'networking' in Germany sounds like a nice time but I don't think the girlfriend or the bank balance would forgive me

Not exactly designed for your purpose but since you're willing to pay, here is an online service for credit risk reports of companies in Finland with search criteria plus more:

https://www.asiakastieto.fi/en/avoimet/ ... tteri.html

The more you pay, the more complete the list is. Think of it as an investment to the Finnish economy.

Jesus thats not going to be a cheap list looking at the prices on the link you posted! Mighty kind of you to share it with me though, ill have a look and probably save it for future reference in case I need extra details on a specific company. Might look good in an interview if I managed to get one! Thanks again

In my searches, I found this link: http://www.finnpartnership.fi/www/en/ex ... /index.php

Yet, you may find what you're looking for by searching "Import-from-Finland" or "Export" key word. Make a phone call to Finnish Chamber of commerce and they may provide you a database or information.

One question: are you going to send a generic cv to all?

I shall do that good idea Cony, that will be on my list of things to do. No, I wont be sending a generic CV to each company, your asking for a cold reception by doing that in my mind. I'll tailor the starting portion of the CV (my personal profile) to fit the job I think I would be suitable for within the company. I'll also be tailoring a covering letter with each CV to send to (hopefully) a decision maker so its not that much work really as there are about 3 or 4 professions I can do with 2 that I would say I excel in so they will likely be reasonably similar text. The covering letters are the real time consumer. I currently have 3 versions of my CV each being rather different from the next as I've had a large amount of work experience. So much so I'm running out of bloomin' pages to fit it on!

Thats fantastic, I wont lie and say I've read through it all yet, I had a quick glimpse and saw the time so I'll check that out tomorrow. Thank you ever so much for searching for me, if I get a job because of your diligent searching the beers are on me!

[Adrian42]

Companies don't exhibit at trade fairs to find staff. You'll be able to do some 'networking' (God I hate that word) at them, but the focus of the exhibiting companies will be elsewhere...

You completely miss my point.

My point was about finding Finnish companies that are selling internationally in some specific area.

When a Finnish company exhibits at a trade show in another country, chances are they are doing business outside Finland.

I was not suggesting that Asa would go to this trade show and try to find a job there.

I understand where your coming from now Adrian but yes its not really relevant for me unless I happen to fly back to London and timed it right for a convention. Yes 'networking' in Germany sounds like a nice time but I don't think the girlfriend or the bank balance would forgive me

No, I was not talking about networking at conferences (and entrance fees would anyway be a bigger cost factor than plane tickets).

I was talking about figuring out what the relevant exhibitions in your area of special expertise are, and then check online who exhibits there.