Starting a '.com' webshop in Finland

[ffuser]

Hi everyone!

I'm planning to open a webshop to sell products in Finland. As I'm not living in Finland I opted for a .com domain. Although the website itself will be in Finnish.
As I need to promote my products to Finnish businesses, I do understand that setting up a website won't be enough. Therefore, I will be needing sales(wo)men in Finland who can promote/sell my products on commision base. Could someone tell me:
-what are the things that I have to bear in mind regarding taxes or hiring salespersons during this process ?!
-what is the best way/place to find sales agents?!

Thanks in advance!

[Brent]

Where are you from and what kind of products will you be selling? I don't think you will be finding salesperson to work for you for commission base only. In Finland, most of all salesperson have a monthly salary + commission. Your best chance is partnering with someone here in Finland.

[ffuser]

Thanks for your reply! I was away for few days so I haven't been able to reply sooner.
I'm from the Netherlands and I will be selling NAS units with services associated to it. I hope I can find some people who can work on sole commission base as I will be giving 10% commision for selling a unit worth €500. In the beginning, I will be making no profit obviously but I'm fine with that. Finding a partner is also a good option but I'm afraid that the 10% will again be divided into the partner and the salespeople. So it might not be very interesting anymore for partners or the salespeople. I want to keep it interesting for the salespeople so that they are more than enthusiastic to sell the product.

Further ideas/suggestions are appreciated!

[Adrian42]

I hope I can find some people who can work on sole commission base as I will be giving 10% commision for selling a unit worth €500.

I want to keep it interesting for the salespeople so that they are more than enthusiastic to sell the product.

€ 50 commission per unit sold, that is around € 25 after taxes and social security.

What is so special about your NAS boxes that your salespeople will be more than enthusiastic that each of them will sell more than 100 units per month?

[Brent]

I don't think households need NAS boxes, they prefer to use free storage services such like dropbox, mega and so on.

[Adrian42]

I don't think households need NAS boxes,

As he wrote, he targets businesses.

they prefer to use free storage services such like dropbox, mega and so on.

The data you stored at Megaupload was lost 1.5 years ago, and such services are usually free only for smaller amounts of data.

For companies it can also be relevant that using a service like Dropbox likely gives their US competitors access to their data.

Apart from that, you miss the huge difference between a NAS, that allows extremely fast access to huge amounts of shared data, and remotely stored data.


There are good reasons for using NAS boxes, but there is much competition and I fail to see the niche that would allow a salesperson to sell at least one box per work hour.

[Brent]

I think only Nas is not a mainstream product so the demand is not that high and furthermore technology evolves rapidly. I think it's a bit late to enter the market in such products.

By mega I meant the newer Mega that was born because "they" shut the Megaupload down. Here is the new Mega address: https://mega.co.nz/

[Adrian42]

I think only Nas is not a mainstream product so the demand is not that high

You clearly don't have the slightest clue of what you are talking about.

Have a look at http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/catalog/ ... palvelimet
Verkkokauppa currently offers 164 NAS devices, over 100 of them for less than € 1000 and the cheapest ones for less than € 100.
Some of the 164 devices might be the same devices with different disks, but that doesn't change the point that there is a big choice available at a quite low price.

So please stop your not a mainstream product and demand is not that high nonsense babbling.

[rinso]

Verkkokauppa currently offers 164 NAS devices, over 100 of them for less than € 1000 and the cheapest ones for less than € 100.

So for me that sounds like 164 reasons not to work on commission alone.

[Brent]

You clearly don't have the slightest clue of what you are talking about.

Have a look at http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/catalog/ ... palvelimet
Verkkokauppa currently offers 164 NAS devices, over 100 of them for less than € 1000 and the cheapest ones for less than € 100.
Some of the 164 devices might be the same devices with different disks, but that doesn't change the point that there is a big choice available at a quite low price.

So please stop your not a mainstream product and demand is not that high nonsense babbling.

Perhaps you misread my writing as I said: "I think..."

I'm glad that you educated me that everything sold on verkkokauppa is a mainstream product.

[Adrian42]

You clearly don't have the slightest clue of what you are talking about.

Have a look at http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/catalog/ ... palvelimet
Verkkokauppa currently offers 164 NAS devices, over 100 of them for less than € 1000 and the cheapest ones for less than € 100.
Some of the 164 devices might be the same devices with different disks, but that doesn't change the point that there is a big choice available at a quite low price.

So please stop your not a mainstream product and demand is not that high nonsense babbling.

Perhaps you misread my writing as I said: "I think..."

That doesn't tell anything good about what is between your ears...

In your first post you were talking about households even though the OP was clearly talking about businesses (and even for households you would be wrong - there is actually much demand for them by households), and in your second post you made it clear that you don't have the slightest clue of what you are talking about.

I'm glad that you educated me that everything sold on verkkokauppa is a mainstream product.

I never claimed that.

But when Verkkokauppa has over 100 products in a category that is definitely mainstream.

[ffuser]

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There are good reasons for using NAS boxes, but there is much competition and I fail to see the niche that would allow a salesperson to sell at least one box per work hour.

It's indeed about the services that will be included with the unit! Not everyone knows how they can make maximum use of a NAS. The setup, usage, maintainance will all be done by us.

[Adrian42]

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There are good reasons for using NAS boxes, but there is much competition and I fail to see the niche that would allow a salesperson to sell at least one box per work hour.

It's indeed about the services that will be included with the unit! Not everyone knows how they can make maximum use of a NAS.

I got that point already when you wrote I will be selling NAS units with services associated to it.
But where is the sufficient sales volume for your salespeople?

A salesperson working full-time on a freelance basis selling your products must be confident that he will get between € 5,000 and € 10,000 in commissions each month.
In other words, 10% of commission on nearly one million Euro of sales per year and salesperson.
Or one box sold per work hour.

The more I look at your business and run the numbers, the more your

I want to keep it interesting for the salespeople so that they are more than enthusiastic to sell the product.

sounds just like plain bull$hit to me - there is no way your salespeople will earn enough in commissions to make a decent income.

And that will be the reason why no sane person would want to sell your products on a commissions-only basis.

The setup, usage, maintainance will all be done by us.

I assume "us" is located in Finland and speaks Finnish fluently.
Otherwise you might have a problem.

Why do you actually intend to do business in Finland, and not in the Netherlands or neighboring countries?