100% natural milk with pure fats and cream

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100% natural milk with pure fats and cream

Post by Arif Shah » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:25 pm

Hi,

I have been trying to make some sweets that are made of pure natural milk. Milk with full fats and cream are boiled to the point where it starts to become very thick and eventually it is dried

We make this in our country and it gives great result and tastes great. However, the regular milk that I have been buying here in super markets (K and S) does not give me that result. It does not seem to have the natural cream and fat

So the question is that the milk that is sold in super markets here, Is it really 100% natural and pure? If not, can someone please tell me the place where I can buy 100% natural and pure milk


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Arif



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Re: 100% natural milk with pure fats and cream

Post by Upphew » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:36 pm

Arif Shah wrote: Milk with full fats
So you haven't used the low fat milks?
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Re: 100% natural milk with pure fats and cream

Post by Pursuivant » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:03 pm

I don't think you'll find this in every store, but this gets the cream on top http://www.valio.fi/tuotteet/maidot/val ... ysmaito-1/

Other also rare they sell is beestings - ternimaito - usually its frozen into bricks. (its the milk when the cow has just calved, the very first milk.)
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Re: 100% natural milk with pure fats and cream

Post by Arif Shah » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:27 am

Upphew wrote:
Arif Shah wrote: Milk with full fats
So you haven't used the low fat milks?
For personal usage like tea etc, we do use low fat milk but for this specific sweet, we need the milk that produce a good amount of thick cream on top when boiled for long and then let it cold

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Re: 100% natural milk with pure fats and cream

Post by Arif Shah » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:31 am

Pursuivant wrote:I don't think you'll find this in every store, but this gets the cream on top http://www.valio.fi/tuotteet/maidot/val ... ysmaito-1/

Other also rare they sell is beestings - ternimaito - usually its frozen into bricks. (its the milk when the cow has just calved, the very first milk.)
I understand what you mean that the beestings or the milk when the cow has just given birth but I am not talking about that one. Probably the one you said that produce more cream on top is closer to what I need. I basically need the very pure milk that is taken from cow/buffalo but no cream or fat is taken out of it. Such milk is easily found in UK/Canada but I am not sure If we can get it here in Finland.

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Re: 100% natural milk with pure fats and cream

Post by AldenG » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:37 am

That's called non-homogenized in English, isn't it?

And with ternimaito, it sounds like you're talking about colostrum.
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Re: 100% natural milk with pure fats and cream

Post by riku2 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:22 am

for some reason the milk sold in finland is homogenized (even the full fat type). perhaps the finns don't like having to shake the carton?

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Post by Upphew » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:24 am

riku2 wrote:for some reason the milk sold in finland is homogenized (even the full fat type). perhaps the finns don't like having to shake the carton?
The idea of shaking reminds too much of piimä... cultured buttermilk?
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Post by AldenG » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:44 am

AldenG wrote:That's called non-homogenized in English, isn't it?
I didn't say that part very well.

Obviously the unadulterated milk itself is called raw milk in English, but the two things that happen later to make whole milk different from raw milk are homogenization, where the fat is broken down into such small particles that it can no longer rise, and pasteurization, which is the heat treatment. I suppose there may be some kind of filtering as well. But the main thing about milk from which cream is no longer available is the homogenization. That's how I ended up call it non-homogenized, since that was the key issue here.
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Post by riku2 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:05 am

AldenG wrote: That's how I ended up call it non-homogenized, since that was the key issue here.
This would be related to what you consider "normal" milk to be. In the UK not much of the milk on sale is homogenized and you will find only a small selection of homogenized milk (although it's not clear who would want it apart from those who like full fat milk but don't like shaking the carton). In Finland almost all the milk is homogenized so people think of that as "normal" and need a word to describe milk that has not been homogenized.

I have found dairy products the things that differ most between countries - piima, rahka, viili for example. those are different to what you find in the UK and different again to Poland and eastern europe.

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Re: 100% natural milk with pure fats and cream

Post by Pursuivant » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:22 am

Well that Hilma milk is non-homogenized and full fat so I guess its the closest available, but I'd say you need to be lucky to find it.
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Re: 100% natural milk with pure fats and cream

Post by ritan7471 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:20 pm

Valio Hilja is available at Prisma Itäkeskus, but I don't remember seeing it in too many other places.

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Post by Pursuivant » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:11 pm

I have found dairy products the things that differ most between countries
You only need to go to Tallinn and the supermarket milk aisle is full of "weird stuff"
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Re: 100% natural milk with pure fats and cream

Post by Jussi » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:11 pm

Hilja milk mis available in most supermarkets now, heck, our local s-market has it. Also, look for the Arla equivalent which has the added bonus of being organic: http://www.arlaingman.fi/tuotteet/tuote ... 3300015249
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Re: 100% natural milk with pure fats and cream

Post by Rosamunda » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:39 pm

I buy Rainbow organic milk (imported from Germany-Denmark) because it is not homogenized. It is semi-skimmed though but there might be a red one too, not sure.

I'm not sure what kind of sweets you are trying to make but could you use tinned, condensed or evaporated milk? Tat's available in most ethnic food stores and probably in the bigger supermarkets too.

BTW riku2 - the biggest milk "brand" in the UK nowadays is Cravendale (Arla) and all their milk is homogenized. Not because Brits are too lazy to shake the bottle but because the milk has a longer shelf life (21 days). Which is apparently what people want. Last time I was in the Uk, I struggled to find milk that was NOT homogenized.


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