Canadian moving to Espoo/Helsinki

[cors187]

What i am sick of is the forum timing out and the back button not giving me my post to copy and paste in the new start up window.
I had a good explanation typed out but you just have to use your imagination and see that a mcdonalds meal deal is in almost every city strategically priced.

Builders are directly related to excess money and excess money in pockets means building projects to create more businesses.

So the apple/teacher dont work.

[cors187]

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Can ... nd/Economy

Mcdonalds uses those stats and i use Mcdonalds stats
You see i just crapped on the 10 years of analytical training by using my surroundings to employ more people , make more money.
Meal deal indexing with comparative builders indexing.

Last time i employed a kid In Oz , he was on 19AUD and a meal deal was 6AUD.=3.16 meal deal index
Tell me when the Finnish school kid get 6,55euro x 3.16= 20.69 Euro/hr
Finnish school kid is never going to be on 20 euro/hr.
School kid buys meal deals
Teachers buy meal deals
Builders buy meal deals


meal deal index from McDonlalds= bringing a brighter future faster.

[kharnynb]

That's of course utter bs when the kid gets a heart disease from all his micky d's and goes bankrupt on medical bills(just an example).

You cannot compare cost of living/income based on a single price point in one market.

[Canadian_moose]

That's of course utter bs when the kid gets a heart disease from all his micky d's and goes bankrupt on medical bills(just an example).

You cannot compare cost of living/income based on a single price point in one market.

Which is why when I pointed to the work of Wilkinson, one among many others, and I am asked how much a Big Mac costs and that statistics are deliberately played with in Finland (not that they have much evidence for this, nor understanding that it can also be equally fudged with in Canada), that I don't bother replying.

[Canadian_moose]

What does my length outside of Canada have anything to do with my points about Finland. I wasn't offering a comparative analysis. It's impossible to compare the systems to 2 countries when they are vastly different systems.

I was making a comparative analysis. So your understanding of Canada is relevant. You replied to my comments by making far-fetched assumptions, as if I assumed poverty did not exist in Finland. I chose my new destination between three countries, more specifically three cities in Canada, the US and Finland. Taking into account rent, food, medical insurance, social mobility, taxation, rate of crime, access to public services such as public libraries and transportation and support for families, I have come to the conclusion that Helsinki was very likely an economically safer place to live for the salary I would earn there, and comparable in both the US and Canada.

And I don't eat at MacDonald. Good quality food without tons of preservatives, sugar and chemicals are available in Canada but much much more expensive, even in a place like Montreal that has a foodie culture, and countries like Finland and England or France have better food standards (not speaking taste here, don't get confused again) than the US or Canada.

[cors187]

That's of course utter bs when the kid gets a heart disease from all his micky d's and goes bankrupt on medical bills(just an example).

You cannot compare cost of living/income based on a single price point in one market.

I did in 3 countries,and i will do it again , and i will make money from the stats by setting the salaries to the meal deal index.

Post up your countries stats ? , i ll tell you where your from!

[GTI]

I see some of these people replying here seem to be a bit bitter, hating everything we have here, only bringing negative sides.


Don't let these people change your mind, sure stuff ain't perfect here, every country has its flaws. If you make 40k/year, which equals to approximately 3,3k/month(minus taxes) you should do fine with that amount of money if you plan on living fairly normal life(not buying expencive things all the time) Only local people/(apparently)foreign people who have lived here for a long time only find negative sides of Finland, if they were to visit some actually poor country, where people live in bad conditions, their opinion would change. There is a saying "You don't know what you have until it's gone" it's pretty fitting to describe the attitudes of most people.


Overall, I like living here, I am fully aware of flaws we have here, but I also acknowledge those positive things we have here. So welcome man, I wish you the best of luck.


Oh, and this is coming from native Finn, who has lived his whole life here, just in case one of these people try to use that "newcomer card"

[cors187]

I see some of these people replying here seem to be a bit bitter, hating everything we have here, only bringing negative sides.


Don't let these people change your mind, sure stuff ain't perfect here, every country has its flaws. If you make 40k/year, which equals to approximately 3,3k/month(minus taxes) you should do fine with that amount of money if you plan on living fairly normal life(not buying expencive things all the time) Only local people/(apparently)foreign people who have lived here for a long time only find negative sides of Finland, if they were to visit some actually poor country, where people live in bad conditions, their opinion would change. There is a saying "You don't know what you have until it's gone" it's pretty fitting to describe the attitudes of most people.


Overall, I like living here, I am fully aware of flaws we have here, but I also acknowledge those positive things we have here. So welcome man, I wish you the best of luck.


Oh, and this is coming from native Finn, who has lived his whole life here, just in case one of these people try to use that "newcomer card"

No one hates finland, no ones bitter about finland at all.
Its the Stiff necked fins, they think their brain works better than everyone around them(countries).

So the mildly better off immigrant who actually is from a better country sees this stiff necked fin all the time(theres lots of them)

I never bag Finland , i just bag stiff-necked Fins.

[Canadian_moose]

I see some of these people replying here seem to be a bit bitter, hating everything we have here, only bringing negative sides.


Don't let these people change your mind, sure stuff ain't perfect here, every country has its flaws. If you make 40k/year, which equals to approximately 3,3k/month(minus taxes) you should do fine with that amount of money if you plan on living fairly normal life(not buying expencive things all the time) Only local people/(apparently)foreign people who have lived here for a long time only find negative sides of Finland, if they were to visit some actually poor country, where people live in bad conditions, their opinion would change. There is a saying "You don't know what you have until it's gone" it's pretty fitting to describe the attitudes of most people.


Overall, I like living here, I am fully aware of flaws we have here, but I also acknowledge those positive things we have here. So welcome man, I wish you the best of luck.


Oh, and this is coming from native Finn, who has lived his whole life here, just in case one of these people try to use that "newcomer card"

Thank you ! Looking forward to the life in Helsinki as I am sure I have plenty to learn from your people but also plenty to give and contribute. Cheers.