Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

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Re: Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

Post by Upphew » Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:28 am

roger_roger wrote:Is there any possibility for a immigrant residing in Finland for more than 5 years (facing a situation of layoff or unemployment) to get to study Finnish language course for Free?

I have enquired about this in TAKK (adult education in Tampere) and TE-Office, still couldn't get a proper response. TE-Office said integration course would have been possible if the candidate is residing in Finland for less than 3 years. I got the link of http://finnishcourses.fi but all the courses are either expensive or Not intensive for foreginers to learn Finnish properly.

BTW, if I go back to some place for more than 3 months and return to Finland, will I be counted as new Resident and get Into that integration course ? :roll: Me being Silly.... :mrgreen:
If said immigrant haven't mustered Finnish, then I'd put him/her immediately to language course when unemployed, as that would be the biggest obstacle to get new job. Imho.
So haul your ass to työkkäri again, you should do "työnhakusuunnitelma" there and keep bringing up that you'd need some language courses to further your chances to get a job.


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Re: Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

Post by kharnynb » Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:31 am

I got the finnish courses after 7 years here, so i don't see why you couldnt.

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Re: Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

Post by illnana » Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:13 pm

Yes it is possible but you have to wait until you are actually laid off. Then go to the unemployment office immediately and register as unemployed then they will find a suitable Finnish course for you after testing your level of Finnish. It's free and you may or may not wait depending on if the courses have already started. Good luck. I heard the classes are very intensive and the teachers are very serious can't be late can't skip class :lol:

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Re: Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

Post by illnana » Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:12 pm

roger_roger wrote:
kharnynb wrote: I got the finnish courses after 7 years here, so i don't see why you couldnt
Can you disambiguate me how did you get into the language course ? Cause I feel I have hit the deadend there.
illnana wrote:Yes it is possible but you have to wait until you are actually laid off. Then go to the unemployment office immediately and register as unemployed then they will find a suitable Finnish course for you after testing your level of Finnish. It's free and you may or may not wait depending on if the courses have already started. Good luck. I heard the classes are very intensive and the teachers are very serious can't be late can't skip class :lol:
I have been kinda layed-off now, my contract is reduced to 0-16 hours/week. I filled online application in TE-Office and had conversation with them too, but they said they cannot offer me language courses as there is no such thing for the ones who have been residing for more than 3 years. If I was here for less than 3 years, I could have been enrolled in Integration course.

I personally asked for language course and I was given the links of http://finnishcourses.fi if I would want to study the language separately. If you could explain me if I am missing something here then it'd be great help.
This is ridiculous if that's what they told you. Unless you are specifically asking them for an integration course if that is the case stop using that word integration :shock: you're probably confusing them as you do not need to integrate after living here for so long . Three of my friends are doing these Finnish courses so it is possible and it is the standard route for unemployed non Finns though it is not compulsory.

You do not need an integration course.

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Re: Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

Post by Upphew » Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:27 pm

Oh, Tampere... good luck. I've read horror stories how työkkäri works there. Or rather how it doesn't work.
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Re: Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

Post by illnana » Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:56 pm

Here in helsinki it works like that. Don't know why they are taking you round in circles. Good luck.

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Re: Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

Post by onkko » Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:12 pm

roger_roger wrote: I found one paid course in Huittinen i.e. 85 euros/week for 25 hours/week. I really wish that course was offered here.
You probably can apply on that, i were on TE course 100km away from home and i dont think they restricted that more in last 18 years. What i have understood by "extra while studying" they havent. Ask in TE if you can apply and if they say no then ask than in written.
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Re: Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

Post by kharnynb » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:36 pm

I can't really say how or what in your case.
My wife lost her job, so we relocated from Helsinki to Savonlinna, and i had to end my contract.
In savonlinna i went to TE, got the intake conversation, and applied for Suomi 1 course (full time).
Since then i did all 3 courses here and am waiting to do yki test next month.

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Re: Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

Post by Y77 » Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:59 pm

if you want to learn finnish I wouldn't raccomend the 10month course funded by the jobcentre,lots of problems,first of all the vast majority of the teachers were russians,never understood why someone would want to be taught by a non native speaker or why the TE doesn't employ mother tongue teachers.
Second of all the all muticulti classroom environment is awful,muslims wants to pray all the time,albanians hate the macedonians,curds don't talk to the irakis,the russians don't want to be with the blacks in the class and people that got into finland in the back of a lorry don't talk to anyone....the result is that teachers spent more time calming people down that actually doing any teaching,the only good thing is that you get 670eu/kk,which you can use to pay for a proper finnish language course.

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Re: Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

Post by kharnynb » Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:20 pm

I don't know where you went to language class, but we have finnish teachers, mostly russian students, but a mix of other nationalities too.
Everyone gets along really well and helps eachother, the only complaint i really have is that i could use another 10 months ;D

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Re: Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

Post by Samer2010 » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:45 pm

kharnynb wrote:the only complaint i really have is that i could use another 10 months ;D
I am not sure if I understood what you meant. Do you mean, You wish you could study another more 10 months?

Are the basic 10 months period is not enough to master the Finnish language?

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Re: Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

Post by kharnynb » Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:18 pm

nowhere near, the finnish language is very complicated, i can speak basic finnish, and hold a 1 on 1 conversation in relatively basic topics.

In a multiperson conversation, or a technical topic, i am still useless.

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Re: Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

Post by Y77 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:30 am

Samer2010 wrote:
kharnynb wrote:the only complaint i really have is that i could use another 10 months ;D

Are the basic 10 months period is not enough to master the Finnish language?
ahahaah! you really have a good sense of humor! To "master" the finnish language you'll need a lifetime,in 10 months you'll barely scratch the surfice,or,in the unlikely event that you end up in an ass.holes-free course and you are particularly gifted,you might consider yourself no longer a complete beginners.

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Re: Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

Post by onkko » Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:56 pm

roger_roger wrote:
onkko wrote: You probably can apply on that, i were on TE course 100km away from home and i dont think they restricted that more in last 18 years. What i have understood by "extra while studying" they havent. Ask in TE if you can apply and if they say no then ask than in written.
My concern is not about being accepted there, its 200kms or 5 hours journey daily by Bus for up and down. To move to Huittinen is out of frame, as I have to keep the possibilities open for other jobs.
If I have to move from Tampere, may be this is just about right time to Move to Helsinki or Capital area. There are lots of language courses there too, and also job opportunities.
Its 200km journey once a week or once a month (or daily, its up to you). if they can provide or you can find accommodation, your place of residence wont change.
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Re: Finnish language course for Layoff candidates

Post by Upphew » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:05 pm

roger_roger wrote:
onkko wrote:Its 200km journey once a week or once a month (or daily, its up to you). if they can provide or you can find accommodation, your place of residence wont change.
Yeh but who wants to pay rent in two places during the time of unemployment?
This one which says: "Course fee 85e/vko(sis.majoitusjaruoka) €" ?
Lets clear typos some typos: sis. majoitus ja ruoka. Sis. means incl., majoitus means lodging and ruoka means food. Ja is and. So I'd say the course is quite reasonably priced.
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