Discrimination

[Oho]

"Äänestäjillä ei saa olla sellaista illuusiota, että he voivat ilmaista ulkomaalaisvihamielisyytensä vaaleissa äänestämällä esimerkiksi perussuomalaisia" - Matti Vanhanen Hufvudstadsbladetin haastattelussa, Hufvudstadsbladetin verkkolehti 14.1.2009

It goes even further, voters should not even be entitled to express an opinion which diverts from the one truth.

[Oho]

What are you saying, is this a communist state from your write-up ?

Yeah, essentially in the mold of contemporary China. 'Panem et Circences', general elections and social security.

[cors187]

Obviously it's us who foot the bill but changing policy is the problem of the state elected officials. We can blame the govt officials but it's the voters who make the decision to elect them, so... who're the idiots Taxpayers can moan and *itch and whine about the MP's but the power rests with the voters.

You live under the illusion that Finland is actually a working democracy? This after the prime minister in so many words said that the voters should not expect to be able to influence government policies by voting. The true power does not lie with the voters, just does not, Finland is really not a true civil society, constructs are in place but they amount to almost nothing when the parliament has been reduced to a mere rubber stamp. Finland is the remaining bastion of the Soviet Union, still governed the same way with official party line the only tolerated truth.

I knew Finland is a sheep farm.

[enkeligod]

What are you saying, is this a communist state from your write-up ?

Yeah, essentially in the mold of contemporary China. 'Panem et Circences', general elections and social security.

Finland and China have been enjoying longstanding and traditional friendship. The two countries established diplomatic relations as early as 1950. In 1953, the inter-governmental trade agreement was signed between the two sides, as the first of its kind in Europe. Over the years, the two nations have witnessed a continuously consolidated political relationship and an ever-developing trade and economic ties.

But i dont see the both countries romancing or practising similar form of communist system of government (Socio-capitalism) maybe correct to say.

[cors187]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Legal ... rldMap.png

Ponder that map and try and work out which sheep station has free range.
We all know ,but to admit it to yourself.lol

This argument allways goes back to one thing.

Can the student become better than the master.

[Rick1]

I understand from OHO that the common person has to live in these wunderfull multi culti areas, not the elite, they buy buildings away to avoid any asylumseekers in their area. Almost president, Green Pekka Haavisto did not buy his humble house in Kontula but in a better area in East Helsinki.

[Oho]

I understand from OHO that the common person has to live in these wunderfull multi culti areas, not the elite, they buy buildings away to avoid any asylumseekers in their area. Almost president, Green Pekka Haavisto did not buy his humble house in Kontula but in a better area in East Helsinki.

I would not know, my beef is more with the lack of civil society, the contempt with which the political elite looks upon the common people as mere subjects if not serfs.

Immigration policy just one area where the condescension of the political elite manifests itself. Government's propensity to think it knows what people want and need better than the people themselves is another not to mention its insatiable appetite for surveillance akin to Orwell's 1984 on what ever grounds. What amazes me even more is the willingness of the people to let the government to chip away their privacy and collect intelligence as if there was no historical precedence of governments using such information to oppress and to even hunt people it deemed harmful on what ever arbitrary grounds.

[Rick1]

I agree for a big part, even worse is the EU who has a total lack of intrest in what the people think, we cannot even vote over certain things, we as taxpayers can only bring our money there so they can distribute it in a wastefull matter. Could we vote for the expansion of the EU? Finnish government did not even let us vote over the EU basiclaw. In other countries they said no to the law so now the EU is busy with other ways to get their way. It should get cleaned up there but as long as the old elite is sitting there (for life I assume) it will only gets worse. EU will dictate more and more.

[Pursuivant]

Non-european continuous immigration only began in finland at the fall of the soviet union, so in some ways you can make excuses for the sickening and degenerative behaviour of ethnic finnish racism, but in 2013, with the net and cheap to travel to almost everywhere, such virulent racism should be repudiated and put away.

So why is that then? Were Finns somehow racist without any other races around? Or is it actually only after they finally actually met those people they had only read about in books or seen in a film, and had to live with them, when they became racist? And then they became racist overnight without a reason? Really? Its no use blaming the mirror if your own face is crooked.

[Pursuivant]

EU runs like the Roman empire - divide et impera - its in the EU's interest to mix the EU into a quagmire instead of the old nation states. In Rome the legions were never locals, but posted on the other side of the empire. In modern EU with the huge youth unemployment we see the young generations move. If you stay you are called a provincial degenerate...

[Pursuivant]

Yeah, and back to my statement that the masses are so used to being passive agressive and *itching and moaning with no one /group willing to stand up and say "this is enough crap" and actually mean it.

Last time someone 'meant that' it got a bit out of hand...