Koiruuksia

[Jukka Aho]

http://anniilaugh.tumblr.com/post/65083 ... nglish-the

[PäähäniSattuu]

Every possessive form of koiralle is missing.

[Rekkari]

PäähäniSattuu wrote:

Every possessive form of koiralle is missing.

The possessive forms of the allative case are not the only ones missing - so are those of the ablative (-lta/-ltä), illative, and all the plural possessive forms. And maybe the instructive case, too. I don't really know that case - can it have possessive suffixes?

[PäähäniSattuu]

Well, the joke is only mentioning the singulars. The instructive 'case' can never have a possessive form because it's not actually a case but an adverbial derivative.

[maximumforum]

This is more extensive
http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~fkarlsso/genkau2.html

[Rob A.]

Well, the joke is only mentioning the singulars. The instructive 'case' can never have a possessive form because it's not actually a case but an adverbial derivative.

I'm not sure I would try to explain it that way..... The instructive may not be a "full-blown" case but it still seems to fit into the hierarchy of cases rather than be considered an adverb or adverbial. Though, I suppose discussing this can degenerate into "tetrapyloctomy" pretty fast...

But, yeah, possessive constructions with the instructive seem to go along different lines .... Elaa omin valloin. or nähdä omin silmin...

Here is a link to a previous FF thread on the instructive case:

https://www.finlandforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=51173

And a link to what the authors call adverbial cases, though they explain that these are usually just regarded as adverbs and I suppose such "adverbs"are usually learned as fixed forms rather than as part of a case paradigm.

http://users.jyu.fi/~pamakine/kieli/suo ... rbien.html

I think too much is made of this case grammar..... Really, it's just another way of accomplishing what in English would take the form of a phrase, you know, Finnish says... taloon...English says...."into a house".... Which is more efficient? Is it even worth debating?